not helping lemmy’s extremist-leaning reputation guys

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    Maybe you just want him to stew. But the whole point of my post is that people providing the specific examples I give don’t just want him doxed or even just protested - they’re actually calling for violence or murder. I don’t like Fuentes, and I’m not defending him as a person AT ALL. It took 3 minutes of looking up who he was to be disgusted by him. That doesn’t justify the blatantly illegal violence people are pushing for. Most of the big talkers will never do a damn thing either, which is actually a good thing because the most likely outcomes are they die or ruin their lives. I just hope their posts about teaching Nazis via violence don’t get someone more impressionable to ruin their life.

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        Nazis deserve nothing but bullets to the head

        I thought you just wanted him afraid? Sounds like you too actually want him literally killed without charge or trial - good thing you don’t consider it worth the drive since the most likely outcomes are you die or ruin your life. And spur revenge violence either way when people turn him into a martyr. Fuentes is an awful human being for advocating terrible things, don’t be like him but just on an opposite side. Thanks for a quote to add to my main post that really illustrates people actually wanting violence and not just “innocent” doxing btw.

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          I thought you just wanted him afraid? Sounds like you too actually want him literally killed without charge or trial

          Those are not mutually exclusive. One is much more likely to happen than the other.

          And if someone does end up committing a murder because of some twitter post and going to prison for it, hey, that’s one less ticking time bomb walking the streets. Ol’ nick’s life is far less valuable than those of random innocents. And one more martyr is not going to change anything. They are perfectly capable of substituting imaginary slights for real ones.

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            Do you think that “they could be killing us” will get the same response as “they ARE killing us”? Trump and supporting militias are going to have a field day if people like you get their way. If you think it’s bad now, wait until the 134 million American gun owners on both sides are enraged by proven examples that make them fearful of being murdered by their fellow countrymen.

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                What examples do you mean? Public/media figures like Fuentes have been killed? I didn’t know that. I’m Canadian, but I didn’t even know that Republicans and Democrats were regularly killing each other based on political affiliation. And nothing happened? No court cases, no escalations in rhetoric, the murders just disappeared? I would have thought it would be big news.

                If that’s not what you mean, what do you mean by proven examples of the things we’re talking about?

                I guess if you guys kill just a handful of people it’s alright, yeah? I don’t know what it will accomplish given the millions of people that fall under the category of “should die” in this thread, other than ruining/ending lives (including your own). But if you’re right perhaps you can get away with a few before it really kicks off. BTW, in case someone reads this - don’t kill people even if you’re angry. I don’t actually think “just a few” murders are the right thing to do.

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      5 days ago

      If you think the Holocaust would have ended without a whole lot of murder than you’re insane.

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        Ok buddy, you kill your way to a safe nation. What’s actually going to happen is you’ll die or ruin your life, and Trump will get all the proof of radical left terrorism he needs to do things like deploy the military in civilian areas.

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          No problem. You liberals just promise to get out of the way while leftists have to do all the hard work required to save a country. As usual.

          I know you won’t be able to control yourselves though and will make it exponentially more difficult.

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            I AM a leftist. I’m a socialist (not communist) who believes in systems akin to Scandinavia’s. I support Bernie Sanders and policies like universal healthcare, living wages, and a strong social network of supports. What I’m not is a short-sighted violence advocate convinced that they’re in a group of untouchable heroes that will save the world via illegal murder and get away with it.

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              Have fun waiting for your bloodless Revolution while people around you suffer and die.

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                Have fun glorying in your power fantasies and then doing nothing and grumbling about how you really would have.

                P.S. On the very, very slim chance you really are mentally unstable enough to do so, don’t kill anyone. It’s not going to end well for you or the nation.