They definitely are low information voters. When people hear things they don’t like from people they do like, they always assume it’s not going to hurt them until it actually does. This might eventually work if they heard it enough, but they never will and don’t care enough to pursue the information on their own.

In terms of the old white man thing, I think it’s fair to say that while people say they don’t want old people running, what they really mean is old people who aren’t all there. This should eliminate Trump, but he’s never seemed all there and he’s had a more shallow decline than Biden. Bernie doesn’t meet this qualification because he’s still as sharp as ever. Biden’s decline was shockingly fast and even turned liberals away despite his government still operating

I did get the very strong vibe from undecided voters that they really wanted to vote for Trump but couldn’t tell anyone the reason was racism or sexism because they care too much about their image with liberals or their own self-image.

That all being said, a trending search term on election day was, “Did Joe Biden drop out?” So clearly, the low information problem should be doing some heavy lifting in our conclusions.

Completely agree with these two traits being the primary obstacles. I think the Democratic party’s ability to acknowledge this is the key to future election wins. You conclusion though that the solution is for Americans to “overcome their base human instincts en masse” is very incomplete.

A few suggestions if you want to appeal to someone who is lazy about gathering and retaining information and getting off their butt to vote:

1. State directly why they should care and what you’re going to do about it in the first 2 sentences, then tell them what to believe about it instead of relying on them to have a thought.
2. Create a campaign against the media they consume to instill doubt that they’re getting the full picture (they obviously aren’t).
3. Present facts mostly to disprove the points they’ve been fed rather than defending your positions. This is both to prevent competing influence where you will obviously lose as well as to be offensively confident rather than defensively meak.
4. To appeal to the dumbest people amongst us who can barely figure out how to breath, also vaguely gesture that you will fix everything wrong and take public concerns to your office as a personal checklist.
5. Surround yourself with actual entertainment, not just politicians. The Democrats have the support of every artist who matters, have a mega-mash concert… We’re the cool party, don’t pretend we’re not. They should want to watch it like the Dre Day Superbowl even if they don’t agree with the candidate.

A few suggestions if you want to appeal to someone who is selfish and wouldn’t lift a finger in a holocaust if the target wasn’t them:

1. TELL THEM WHAT THE GOVERNMENT DOES FOR THEM. I’m so sick of the messaging not containing things like ROI for the government programs. Talk about how for every house we remove lead paint and pipes from it will mean less taxes for you because more people will have the chance to pay them and not be dependent on the system. Talk about how many leading technologies originated with public funds that were only possible through government spending including technology they’re watching this through, or the reason they’re not dead in that car accident, or why they haven’t choked and died on the air.
2. Tell them what the opposition wants to take from you and give to the rich, whether technically true or not, make them defensive and want to distance themselves from their donors. They’re coming to steal your hard earned tax dollars and give it to SpaceX to use technology we all paid for. Government leads and these corporate wellfare ghouls follow, and my opponent represents the ghouls. Say the exact amount of money Tesla and SpaceX gets from the government, point out that’s why Elon is groveling behind him collecting government crumbs like the most pathetic pidgeon ever.

This all fits firmly into the messaging solutions of leftist populism by the way.

The underlying assumption here is that these voters aren’t low information voters. The economy was what they themselves say they voted while thinking about. I believe it’s pretty clear that perception is more important than reality for these voters, and their perception could not be more wrong about that and many other issues. There is certainly misogyny and racism in there too, but also keep in mind that was largely felt in people staying home, not voting for Trump. Harris got far fewer votes and Trump received nearly the same as last time.

There’s no easy one size fits all blame to be had here I don’t think, as nice as simple explanations are. I believe lack of populist messaging, following safe trends rather than creating them in the minds of constituents (with exception of the weird insult), lack of emergency covid situation, sexism, and appeals to status quo systems that have flaws all played a role.

The National Review? A broken clock is right twice a day I guess. They support Trump all the same, just as William Buckley intended.

New information shows his internal polling at the time showed he’d lose to Trump’s 407 electoral votes… He still refused to step down for over a month. You are incorrect that he would have won by all metrics that can be known.

She is literally the smartest person in the court by far and remains to be. We can talk replacement when she loses her mind like Breyer did.

Seems like a reasonable ask if they’re worried for their safety.

Very well stated. We need to operate within this reality instead of the fantasy land created by those who will be fine either way.

Unfortunately it’s worse than this. It seems like the GOP has successfully indoctrinated a new generation if incel supporters in high enough numbers to matter. If this trend continues the boomers can die and we’ll still be fucked.

I think empathy dies in greater numbers every year. Your position seems to rely on empathy of the downtrodden. Obviously progressives will largely support these policies, but there is selfishness within those ranks too. What if America is just losing touch of their humanity? I feel like leaning into the obvious divide is step one. Stop pretending they’re our friends, and then call them every name that applies to them and then double, triple, quadruple down. The smartest thing Biden said all year is that the only garbage he sees is Trump’s supporters laughing at that joke.

As sad as it is though, it’s very difficult to have empathy when you’re drowning. If people weren’t all drowning it would be easier to get through to them. Power has locked out all options for that though.

I think it was a matter of who was willing to go low. American people are not civilly minded, they appreciate hyperbole, satire, and vicious descriptive insults versus those they don’t like. This isn’t just Republicans who like these things, and one could even argue they don’t understand satire. Tim Walz was the energy we needed and the muzzle they put on him was like an enthusiasm sponge. When you say your enemies are good people who deserve a cabinet seat you’re fucking lost. Nobody in this climate gives a fuck about civility except the talking heads and politicians worried that making a stand needs to be proceeded by a ballot questionnaire and a sacrificial lamb.

From the wording it sounds like it wasn’t made public, just presented to the lawyers. It’s similar to how jehovah witnesses tried to pierce anononimity for the antijw reddit posters to identify defendants in a copyright lawsuit and the judge said something akin to “It’s understandable that you don’t want your name publicly associated with this post, but the court system imparts trust on lawyers to act as good stewards of this information and so plaintiffs council may have access to your identity.” If this information is leaked they should be disbarred on the spot for mishandling the data.

Sorry bud, you’re not a republican any more… They’ve left you behind because your morals were based on something.

I dunno bro, I saw a lot of bright smiling teeth behind him DURING the joke. Not a single person I know with a soul did anything other than gasp. The entire rally was full of opaque out and open fascist statements and disgusting needlessly aggressive remarks about opponents. If you think it wasn’t similar to the MSG Nazi rally then you really ought to watch it. Your blinders are letting you get slow-walked to nazism.

Maybe if his spawn’s failson husband didn’t oppsidaisy the federal contract to restore its infrastructure to a middleman shell company nobody’s ever heard of it would be in better condition… or if it wasn’t Washington’s proving ground for the effects of cruel and unusual policies nobody except companies want. Or if they could spend money on their own infrastructure before paying back bonds like everyone else can legally do. Or maybe if Trump gave any shits at all about it as his entire presidency was riddled with hatred towards US territories like “at least the only thing in range of North Korea’s nuke is Guam.” I’m sure there isn’t metric tons of evidence that his policies reflected that opinion.

Well the dollar was a good currency while it lasted.

Our collective qualifications for this very political stance is uh… money? They should all be in jail for anti-competitive and anti-union business practices, not in some self-follating prominently placed article. “We gamble daddy money against labor value real good, us smart.”

I’m more interested in the opinions of the poor assistant tasked to dictate their pompous soliloquy round discussion right before their electric windows dim for the next blood orgy. Are they okay?

What a dipshit.

Trump shuts up when events threaten anything we care about if it doesn’t suit his goals and screams loudly if it does, but it has nothing to do with the freedoms or positive values we as Americans often have.

He shut the hell up when Erodogan’s bodyguard thugs beat up peaceful protesters with brass knuckles and kicked a pregnant participant.

He shut the hell up when the Saudi prince’s hitman murdered a US journalist at our consolate.

What does he really care about? The man bitched for a year about Hillary’s email and his empty-headed family had multiple examples of them doing the same shit. He claims to care about millitary members and then immediately misused them, getting a bunch killed conducting riskier than necessary missions, shit on PoWs, and thumbsed up a gravesite in Arlington. He claims to care about gun rights, but when discussing what to do about shootings he asked why we can’t just take someone’s weapons before they had plausibly done anything wrong. Power, he does seem to actually care about that.

The election is why Netanyahu is doing it… He wants to secure a future of endless apologia that will help him extent his own term. I’m sorry, but why is it such a hard decision when one side ignores you but the other side wants you dead?

Progressives have been ignored by the establishment since LBJ, and then the attention from the other party turned to stomp them. This is not new. Changes between liberal establishment losers and progressive firebrands come from primaries. The choice of purple/blue vs fascist is the general. Always will be until ranked choice voting. Bad realities don’t resolve by ignoring them.