Sweet I’d say automate the boring stuff is excellent.

My meaning was python plus those things is an awesome world of hobby and professional development, that’s all. Lots of great projects can be even greater with python

Absolutely not. I’m in line with others.

I suggested a basic python book, then listed topics to get into next. They didn’t discount they already work in gis, it acknowledges they said they want to learn how to code and apply it to GIS.

Did not, I’m describing things you can do with gis across the spectrum, ESRI or not, preferably once you have a decent python foundation. Edit I and others are saying “do some non GIS projects in python FIRST, then explore these GIS related things.” Because jumping to scripting in arc pro alone isn’t advised.

Why are you being combative? I’m not hating on them at all. I literally just rattled off common file formats, libraries, and projects to consider. The original comment says they scraped a few things together from tutorials, and I and other comments are discussing how to build a strong foundation, then extend it.

I’ve got no ill will for OP.

Knowing how to script a bit in arc pro does not really mean you know anything about python, or programming for GIS at even a basic professional level. That’s ok, no hate, everyone starts out. Checking out various software, formats and libraries, in addition to getting the python basics down will open a huge world of projects and even work opportunities

Agree, I don’t think I went against that. I certainly didn’t say it’s JUST geojson and web map. That was just a list of keywords. I opened by saying these are more things to get excited about.

If it’s just esri (they said q too), but if it’s just esri, automate the boring stuff + arcpy and you’ll be a happy camper.

Cartographic stuff is super simple in any framework. Data processing and network topology are great things to study that aren’t web map. Remote sensing is the coolest shit and you can literally get free imagery and use free tools to make surface analysis and identification…not as a super raw beginner, but not long after.

Learning about the common open source file formats, storage strategies, and processing libraries is attainable (and desirable) by a beginner who has automate the boring stuff under their belt

Jumping straight into esri and staying there, without getting some general education, is a good way to end up not knowing much about python, and generally developing weaker workflows.and automations, in my professional experience.

Like I said, learn some python basics and good habits, then consider gis.

Get the basics locked.in before dipping into GIS.

Edit, because someone misunderstood me… You’ll have an easier time extending your existing GIS work by getting a nice foundation of non GIS python skills.

There’s a lot of odd patterns and domain specific requirements in the spatial data world, not even mentioning the nasty beast that esri is.

Provided you listen to my above advice, here are some other keywords that will help excite the home-gis dev: geopandas, (pandas), geojson, geopackage, QGIS, leaflet (not python but easy to connect a leaflet frontend with a python backend), openstreermaps, map box, earthexplorer (USGS free aerial imagery of lots of imagery types)

If it must be esri based, arcpy is a popular library.

Yes. He would have zero issue with your comment. He would smile. He is not attempting to be logically consistent

Checks out, I’ve seen a baby duck there, I don’t think it flew in

I’d say don’t think to much. Get some thin sport material ones and see how you do. If you’re still cold, get thicker ones.

It’s not a waste, you’ll find a time to wear the thin ones

Very online folks word lawyering to the n-th degree. Language shifts and has different meanings in different countries.

To play along, I’ve heard “expat” to refer to someone on a work appointment with a fixed timeline, say, someone who works for Microsoft being sent to France for 2 years. I’ve heard many Americans say “I’m immigrating to” to mean they are going through permeant resident or citizen pathways with the host country.

Others have a different read of the word, but as long as you aren’t a jerk wherever you are going, it won’t ever come up

They won’t stand toe to toe. They’ll respond in the night like cowards they are.

I am NOT espousing tolerance. Everyone is foolishly assuming I’m saying “don’t doxx AND DONT DO ANYTHING ELSE”. I’m not. I’m saying doxxing is not the road to success, and is terroristic behavior. There are more effective, more targeted methods available that don’t endanger neighbors and mistaken identities (wrong address)

They want you to normalize behavior like this.

Edit if eating downvotes for disagreeing with this community on popularizing poorly targeted, in accurate methods, that can easily be reversed en masse onto at risk people, by enemies who have lots of guns and lots of free time, (and a displayed proclivity for surreptitiously destroying and shooting things up in the night) then I’m fine with it.

Y’all are clearly ready to just fling violence all over without thinking of innocent people who will be caught up. The votes reflect that.

Our brand, coming to a town near you, unfortunately.

Imo when you doxx someone, it’s implied that you are directing people to go to their house and at minimum, confront them. I totally get the urge to do that with this person. He’s harmed a lot of people with his rhetoric. But even if accurate address, a confrontation can lead to violence when an angry person confronts a hateful person, on their property. I understand your point about protests on their street, but I still believe that will create potential for violence. I am not saying protest is wrong. Protest is great.

If it’s something than a protest or a confrontation, then we are talking about what? Sending dogshit in the mail at the low end, or throwing a Molotov cocktail or similar at the high end. Then my concerns about accuracy are relevant. What if the address is wrong and a random family is the victim?

Also, firebombing is not the society I want to live in, even if Fuentes as trash.

Everyone is so ready to assume I’m an apologist for Fuentes, or a misogynist telling women to just shut up. That’s not it at all, but people here are some ready for violence and so ready to be mad that what was formally a pretty popular sentiment (doxxing and swatting is bad) is now apparently different because the target is a bad dude. I fundamentally believe society is worse if we compromise our behavior because the target is a specific person. I also think the blowback of stooping to that level will result in increased harm of people who are already having a real tough go of things. What some are calling cowardice on my part is, in my opinion, harm reduction for people who need it most, and a call for sanity.

It’s inherently risky because online data can be stale. It’s inherently terroristic because you are essentially saying “hey anyone, go do anything in a normal neighborhood, your enemy is there”. What if there’s a shootout of Fuentes front yard and a bystander is killed? That’s net positive violence for the community that wouldn’t have happened otherwise.

As you said, reddit Boston bomber. That’s another alternative if online sleuthing goes wrong.

Back to my original point: doxxing high profile maga types will popularize the activity, and once they latch on in response they will do it with zero care or caution. You may say they are doing it already, I’m saying once it’s plastered across their nrws feeds they will do it a whole lot more.

That’s MORE net new innocent people put in harms way.

There are effective and existing ways to carry out whatever violence or vengeance or self defence. Doxxing isn’t one of them. Being trained in concealed carry and using a gun is not alike doxxing. Doxxing is like a bomb.

Being armed is fine. Looking after your people is great. Not taking any shit is great. If you feel you need to confront people, do it with a level of accuracy.

Armchair general comment.

They never happened in an American neighborhood and you know it.

Attacking Nazis in an active warzone is not the same as sending people to a random neighborhood with little proof of your event at the right house.

As I said in the comment, Nick Fuentes is trash, but so is doxxing. Innocent people get hurt when people doxx.

I never said don’t defend yourself or even take the fight to people like him. Just don’t do things that will get innocent people hurt.

But whatever y’all just want to act tough and not care about consequences

Edit saying doxxing is the right tool is like saying “if you’re shot at, leave a bomb in a public place where you think your enemy goes”

I’d separate oh boy from hey man. Hey man is directed at someone, oh boy is just a remark about the state of things

Who would be misgendered by saying it? You aren’t referring to the person you are speaking to when you say it imo, it’s a hypothetical boy

4 blue lights!!

Sharing my opinion that I think doxxing is dangerous does not obligate me to provide a solution, but to humor you, I’d focus on looking after your people, sticking together, and organizing. These maga clowns thrive on building “others” they can isolate and abuse.

I never said do nothing. Just don’t do things that can accidentally hurt innocent people. I also know I didn’t vote for him.

One of my fears, aside from popularizing the practice, is mistaken address, and innocent people being hurt. So yeah, it would sure help that 100%.

Regarding the first point, I believe doxxing high profile people does indeed popularize it, so yeah, it would help that too.