“Your body, my choice,” isn’t an anti-abortion catchphrase. It’s a pro-rape catchphrase.
It’s not even a catchphrase. It’s a threat
Whatever it’s intended to be, it’s fucking evil. It doesn’t matter if they think it’s a joke. This is like Nazis basing a joke on the premise “yeah, like I would be awful to Jews!”
“Harassment.”
Oh, sure, wannabe Nazi, and you’d never do that, right? Harass anyone else?
He can dish it but can’t take it. Coward.
He’s just like Trump. Talks all kinds of shit then complete bitch when it comes back to him.
“I can excuse rape but I draw the line at harrassment” -Nick Fuentes
How does the fact that he accidentally streamed himself watching gay porn —and then tried to blame, I believe, Hezbollah, if I’m remembering correctly—not come up every single time someone mentions his name? It should be the second half of his introduction, like accolades or a PhD
Kind of a rich statement when it was the reaction to him being intentionally inflammatory in public, as well. Like claiming reckless driving when you get hit wandering aimlessly around the highway at night.
Give them a taste of their own medicine and they shriek that you’ve poisoned them.
Another person called on X owner Elon Musk to intervene, who appears to have begun removing posts showing Fuentes’ address.
The “champion against censorship” is performing censorship. How curious.
I’m a British activist. We have been fighting a populous movement called Stop The Boats, which has switched names to Enough is Enough.
Its come out that I and many comrades have had our photos taken at counter demos and have been added to a list that includes names, location and pictures.
Fuck these guys. Fuck anyone thinking doxxing fascists is wrong. They are doing it to us. And 15 years ago with the rise of the EDL my party comrades where victim to attacks on the street seemingly random. Letters saying “we know your address and the next one will explode” sent directly to homes of socialist party members.
FUCK FASCIST.
gps tracker and return to sender.
Does “return to sender” work differently where you’re at? Here it’s based in the return address and if I was sending a frigging bomb I’d refrain from adding a valid sender.
Now this is the kind of activism I can get behind.
I heard rumors someone burned his house down. No idea if they’re true or not.
In my 30 seconds of research I didn’t find any verification of that, but I did see a woman is pressing charges for assault on him. According to her she went to his door, rang the doorbell, and he opened the door, pepper sprayed her, then pushed/kicked her down the stairs. Added bonus story portion of the police not wanting to do their jobs.
No, I would have heard about it. I’m not super far from Berwyn.
Glad to see that the left is finally ready to start rolling up their sleeves and fighting the right on equal terms, using the same weapons they’ve used on us from the start.
If you make life difficult for these people, they will be less likely to cling to their harmful political viewpoints.
The lefts been doing it, I’m happy to see liberals aren’t going to the FBI and police at least in this instance to stop the left like they did from 2016 to current year.
Nothing he can do if it’s posted here🤡
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Ahahahaha that address is obscured on Google Street View.
Yeah it’s the only one on the street that has that because he paid Google to do it… so it makes it REAL obvious 😂
You don’t have to pay google for it. They do it to anyone that requests it for free.
you can easily pull the local municipal aerials, which are better anyway.
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Really mods, banning someone for doxxing a Nazi? Even though you’re on .world I’d have expected better
Think anyone would care if I put that Snickers in my fridge?
Well more like “Your parents house”
He lives in the closet
Why? Did he not get his letter for Hogwarts?
I don’t know if it still is, but his house was relabeled as “public restroom” on Google Maps for a while after that.
That makes me unreasonably happy. Thanks for sharing!
He’s always been a joke. But this takes the cake. He’s afraid of a 57 year old woman. Sad.
hes alright with rhetoric til it comes back on him
Your house, our choice
I thought this will be another housing crisis article.
This guy is trash but I can’t get behind doxxing. Maga types will be doing a lot of this over the next 4 years and I certainly won’t like it when they’re doxxing immigrants and LGBTQ folks.
Be clear: I think this dude is as bad as they come, I’m just not comfortable with popularizing the practice, especially when maga types are fans of setting things on fire / shooting at things they disagree with.
If you think my comment is a defense of nick Fuentes, or that horrible slogan, you’re as wrong as is physically possible. I know he’s done worse than this, and now is hiding behind elongated. But that still doesn’t make it a good thing to popularize.
Eh… fuck em. Let them fuck around and find out. I’m tired of playing nice guy with these twats.
This is literally what they’ve been saying for years. It’s amazing how much we are like the people we hate the most.
GOP behavior baseline is Dems breaking point behavior. Notable difference.
By justifying it, you’re justifying it for them too, as they believe they have the same or similar grievances. Regardless of who you think is more guilty.
I understand the desire. But two wrongs don’t make a right.
For example, I’m also against the jokes about prison rape. I don’t care who you are, you don’t deserve to be repeatedly raped because you committed a crime.
Edit the point is that feeling of seeking retribution is natural. You want “bad” people to get the very worst of life. But if for nothing else it’s best not to act on those thoughts because we wouldn’t want that “retribution” brought upon others or even ourselves.
I’ll make a deal with you. I’ll be totally ok with it if I start actively harming women by insinuating I own them and you doxx me for that so that women can come tell me how I’ve harmed them. If I spout white supremacist drivel I want you to punch me until I stop. If I make thinly veiled rape threats I want you to kill me.
Since I want that to happen to me, I can go ahead and do what I want, right?
It’s not “you”, it’s the innocent people about to be doxxed for their immigration status, who are not interested in whatever deal you’re comfortable with.
Once the practice becomes politically popularized, the cat is out of the bag.
If you think non-fascists being civil and respectful to fascist is going to give fascists even a fraction of a second of pause before they do shitty things, my only possible conclusion is that you’re painfully naïve and also that you don’t actually understand what fascism is.
Doing their dance moves doesn’t make us “good” anymore.
Who is “us”? I’m not here to be a good guy. I’m here to live my life on my terms without interference and help others do the same. Notice that nowhere in that sentence did I say “Make racists comfortable and happy” or “Snuggle up to a smarmy pile of garbage who trolls women”.
I’m not a good guy. I’m not a nice guy. I’m not the tolerant left. I’m pissed the fuck off and I’m not above doxxing a stupid cunt obliquely threatening rape or punching a Nazi. You can whisper your mean words about them into your pillow or whatever you think will make them stop and I support your right to do so. But that ain’t me.
Those two scenarios are mutually exclusive.
It’s like saying, “Well, you don’t want non-violent offenders in prison, so no one should ever go to prison for any reason.”
Nah, doxxing streamers or random people cause you’re a no life creep is disgusting.
Doxxing people actively harming society is fine.
The point is they will do it too, and it will have been increasingly normalized. It will not be applied per your definition of “fine”. Remember, “they” (read, maga types) think immigrants and others are “harming society”.
They already are. This is just self defense.
2 wrongs don’t make a right.
“They” also do things like voter intimidation at polling places, burning ballot boxes and similar. I wouldn’t say it’s ok to do those things, just because right wing fascists are doing it.
There’s nothing wrong with ruining the life of a monster like Nick Fuentes. There are consequences to publicly encouraging rape.
Be clear: I want the very worst for him, but I want it to come from a system of justice, not a method that often leads to innocent bystanders being hurt.
Read the room, my guy. America has no system of justice. Most of these abhorrent people are on their way to governmental leadership positions. There’s no highroad that leads to winning back the country or justice.
I think maybe the problem here is there is no justice when the system has failed by not confining the worst behaviors of the rich. We have no access to the tools you have mentioned, such as prosecution. Their felonious leader has modeled their path forward by evading any and all consequence. We are the innocent bystanders. They have already normalized harming us and now they will legislate it. We must resist the bystander effect at all cost.
What do you suggest in this scenario?
“when they go low, we go high”
No thanks, I’m all out of weed. Let’s fight them where they are instead.
They are hoping you’ll say that
Bahahahaha false equivalence.
Never said they were equivalent, I’m describing the behavior of the people that I don’t want coming to use doxxing as their day to day tool.
Sure but why on earth should that mean we should condemn it universally? It’s not like they’d stop if we did.
By popularizing the topic it is normalized. There’s also no need to compromise ethical standards.
I want Fuentes charged for the hate crimes and terroristic threats he makes. I am NOT defending him. But I don’t want people going into his neighborhood, getting the house wrong and hurting an innocent person, for example. Or maybe he moves and the new owner gets the heat.
You are explicitly defending him. And putting in time and effort to do so.
Disagree. I’ve made my opinion on him quite clear.
My comment history is clearly anti maga anti fuentes.
I’m not interested in normalizing the tools of fascists and or terrorists.
Explicit defense is completely inaccurate. My original comment even said I have no defense for Fuentes, who I believe belongs in jail
Doxxing is wrong because of 2 things:
Bystanders get hurt when mistakes are made
Normalizing such things will put net new, innocent folks at risk.
This is the recent event that has doxxing on my mind, and why I’ve taken the time here
Bystanders get hurt when mistakes are made
I agree with you in principle, but it didn’t happen in this case and I feel like at this point, what’s done is done and you might as well laugh.
There is no legal or verbal defense against this madness.
Once it spreads, historically, industrial levels of violence are the only way to try to put the genie back in the bottle.
I’d rather small scale intimidation against ringleaders like nick, than having to bomb the fuck out of some redneck stronghold in Missouri in 10 years.
My opinion is clearly unpopular here and I’m ok with it. I don’t think it’s cool to normalize violence (or threats of violence) even if the recipient is abhorrent. This isnt a “oh let’s all have free speech, let’s here what maga has to say” / platforming type of comment/opinion I’m sharing. It’s a “I’m not going to normalize violence especially because I don’t want it turned around on at risk people.”
Y’all are free to have your own voice on it, I’m just sharing my view.
The violence of the oppressors is normalized because they can pass laws to enforce it. The only violence you’re opposed to is the defense of the oppressed.
Untrue. I’m opposed to violence that involves innocent bystanders.
Is Nick Fuentes an innocent bystander?
Not even close
You’re not comfortable using a tactic these chucklefucks use aggressively against us?
You’re as bad as DNC leadership, tbh. This “they go low we go high” idiocy got us where we are. Stop bringing a fucking deck of cards to a gunfight.
Do not lean into the paradox of tolerance. Intolerant views must not be tolerated. It’s always a good day to punch (or dox, or harass, or share their extremist views to their employer or…) a Nazi.
I shared my opinion that I’m not into normalizing political violence, even if they are already comfortable with it. I get y’all don’t agree.
Hey, don’t get me wrong - I get what you’re saying, and nominally I wholeheartedly agree. I just ALSO feel that there’s a single, very specific exception: when a political movement inherently involves political violence (that is: fascism), this rule absolutely does not apply.
I get the motivation, I’m just sharing my opinion that I can’t follow, because I personally believe other innocent folks will be swept up and hurt in the process.
I am no friend of these maga types. I think people here are very angry about these people (edit like Fuentes… Rightfully so!, I am too.) and my comment is perhaps seen as “defending”? Him. I am not. I just don’t think this is the way to do it.
Again: I get what you’re saying. And again: I do nominally agree.
What I’m saying is that you’re looking at the trumpians/maga/proud boys/3%ers as “weird republicans”. They’re not. You need to be looking at them as NSDAP/Nazis/Sturmabteilung. Because that’s what they are. And the want to kill a whole fucking lot of us, because it gives them a hard-on.
Moreover, I’m not saying that we should be conducting overt, systemic political violence now, but I AM saying that we need to be fully prepared for that eventuality. And to that end, we should be looking to the Maquis, as well as the Polish + German resistance throughout WW2.
We are aligned on what they are.
I see resistance against their ways as clinging to, and calling for maintaining norms (when norms are ethical, reasonable… I fully acknowledge even without maga MUCH needs to be improved in America). It is my belief that by normalizing their tools, we institutionalize their methods. We, by participation, make common what should be extraordinary.
It is my opinion that resisting fascist drift is resisting. Others don’t see it this way and are claiming I’m an apologist or something. That’s too bad cause fuck nick Fuentes. I just don’t like doxxing.
I used to think like you. Until last week.
That’s cool, I’m learning a lot of folks here are at least conversationally cool with political violence. I get the urge, it’s just not my path. I don’t see doxxing as defending people, I see it as inherently terroristic because bystanders could be harmed, mistakes can be made, and it can be leveraged against at risk poeple. So I stand against it. I’ll be in my seat calling for peace, and looking after my community, even if it’s unpopular here. I see that as defending.
Have a good one
We have a right to defend ourselves including preemptively. Do you disagree?
If so you’re accomplishing the same thing in the long run as the Nazis. How does that feel to be basically siding with the bad guys because of your apathy?
Completely agree, I just don’t think doxxing is defense. Doxxing is akin to swatting and reddit boston bomber chasing. Bystanders are at risk and mistakes happen. It’s for those reasons I find doxxing unacceptable.
Please do not imply I’m apathetic, there’s no evidence for that. I’m not siding with anyone, I’m saying doxxing is not acceptable behavior by anyone, because of the risks.
Edit I don’t approve of when things like jurors on trump cases, or election officials are doxxed either, if you have some implication that I differentiate on who should be doxxed or something…
the only way these idiots will support anti doxxing laws are if they are doxxed. Its how you build a consensus.
I mean just the other day some folks were talking about his catty posts about the twilight movies. Trump is in some way relatable because he most the faults of everyone I’ve ever met.
