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  • I think I was fairly clear, it is a binary system that has some rare exceptions.

    Saying sex is a binary is saying there are only males and only females.

    In healthy examples of mammals where development has occurred normally this is true.

    This whole ‘its a spectrum’ argument is like saying humans aren’t bipedal, there’s a spectrum because some people are born without legs! It doesn’t make any sense.

    That doesn’t mean that society should refuse to accept, include and support people born without the ability to walk.



  • their existence proves that sex isn’t just a binary.

    This argument has always struck me as odd as in virtually every other discussion we would accept that the exception ‘proves the rule’.

    Humans have two hands, except when they don’t due to something impacting fetal development.

    Humans have two kidneys, except when they don’t due to an error in fetal development or as a result of disease or injury.

    There’s diversity to sex that requires a more complicated scheme to account for everybody.

    Or just let the exceptions be exceptions with no social stigma rather than refusing to recognise that the vast majority of humans, and mammals, can be accurately identified as one of two distinct sexes.



  • Seriously? Punching down because I pointed out how unscientific claims should not be repeated as if they hold any weight?

    Maybe just accept that they have a belief that doesn’t make sense, since it isn’t hurting anyone.

    No. Treating idiotic claims as if they had any merit because you see them as harmless is dangerous. All misinformation is harmful.

    Unlike the racist

    I know this is super difficult for you to comprehend because of how terminally online you are but I never disputed that Hancock is a racist. That isn’t even an argument that is happening outside of your head.

    I know you’re the most terminally online person on lemmy (and second is a distant place) but get some perspective please. I suggest you touch grass.














  • “Male” and “female” are, biologically speaking, not distinct and mutually exclusive categories in humans.

    They are and you repeating a claim without evidence does nothing.

    Sexual dimorphism is real and artificial means of changing or replicating some parts of sexual dimorphism does not invalidate the underlying biology at play.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_dimorphism

    Male and female are so indistinguishable that it’s possible to identify them by their pelvis alone.

    It’s a term coined by bigots to misgender trans people

    Unfortunate origins aside male is jot a gender and therefore not misgendering. Biological man is misgendering.

    What do you think will be the outcome of arguing that sex and gender are the same? That’s literally the side of the argument you have chosen.

    Either they’re separate and gender can be changed or they’re the same… and you disagree with trans rights.


  • The hormones aren’t native to the person

    And therefore are artificial. Take them away and what happens? Secondary sex characteristics return to their baseline…. Mostly.

    I provided you with my definition of biological sex. If you are so interested in continuing this discussion the least you could do is provide your definition as I requested.

    how would giving you the function go a credit card not make you a credit card?

    I would still be a human, because changing one part does not change the whole.

    If you have the outcome of male attributes, you are in effect a male.

    A poor argument given that FTM cannot get real testes, again being artificially mimicked at best.

    The primary sex characteristics, that you seem so fond of, can be removed.

    But not functionally replicated by artificial means. Also I haven’t based my definition of sex, or argument against sex change being possible, on primary sex characteristics.

    You do seem fond of this ‘counter argument’ though. Shame its not counter to anything I have said.

    I have only stated that changing secondary sex characteristics is not sufficient to change a persons sex.

    Biological sex, as determined by a number of factors during development, is unchanging. Gender however can be changed.

    Im surprised I have to repeat that at this point.