• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Insulting me does not answer my questions. Please answer my questions:

    Why should she have to announce that she was holding her legal property inside her own home?

    Why shouldn’t the police have given her time to drop her weapon when they told her to drop her weapon?

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      I’m not your educator, nor am I under any obligation to answer questions that fundamentally bad. Entitlement doesn’t stop bullets.

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        9 months ago

        In other words, those are questions that, if you answered honestly, would undermine your whole argument that the police were justified.

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          Not at all. And I just gave you your answer. Entitlement doesn’t stop bullets, something you clearly struggle with.

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            I see, so your justification for the police shooting someone is that they shouldn’t feel entitled to not be shot.

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              You have a choice. You can be right and dead. Or you can be alive and sort it out later.

              I never said that she deserved to be shot or that the cops were justified. I only explained why they shot her and why they’re likely not to face any consequences for this. I gave no personal judgement. Here is the problem with people like you, you have absolutely no ability for nuance. Anyone who doesn’t immediately cheerlead everything you say 100% must mean that they’re 100% against you and should be attacked.

              it’s funny because your behaviour embodies what you claim you’re raging against.

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                Your words:

                They didn’t imagine the gun. The girlfriend confirms that she picked up her gun and went to the door. If the police are there and banging on the door, you don’t pick up a gun and walk to the door in America.

                Sure sounds like you’re justifying what they did to me.

                I gave no personal judgement.

                That’s ridiculous. This entire time, you’ve been judging her actions.

                Also, it’s pretty funny that you are complaining about being accused of judging people and then end your post by judging me.

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                  I’m not justifying, I’m giving helpful advice for anyone, like yourself, who struggles to grasp the realities of the world outside of your sheltered basement. It’s pretty clear from this conversation that you have no real world experience at all, and I’d like you to be prepared for that eventual day when you do decide to go out there and see what’s actually going on.

                  Saying ‘They shot her because she was carrying a gun’ isn’t justifying it, it’s explaining why they shot her. There is no judgement there about it being wrong or right, it’s an explanation of cause and effect.

                  That’s ridiculous. This entire time, you’ve been judging her actions.

                  Again no. I’ve been explaining the consequences of her actions. Let’s try another example since you clearly have a bee in your bonnet over gun rights,

                  Person A mouths off at Person B who then punches Person A in the face.

                  You come in carrying on about freedom of speech and I point out ‘Well the whole reason B punched A in the face is because they mouthed off’. This is not a justification, or a declaration that they were right for doing so. it’s an explanation of what happened and why it happened. If you don’t want to get punch in the face, don’t mouth off. Pretty simple. Doesn’t mean you deserve to get punch in the face, but mouth off certainly carries that risk.

                  She didn’t deserve to get shot, but in 2024 carrying a gun towards the police is a great way to get shot. She certainly had a right to carry the gun, but rights and entitlement doesn’t stop bullets.

                  It’s very likely that if she’d not picked up the gun she wouldn’t have been shot and she would have explained she forgot her keys and everyone would have gone on with their night. I’m perfectly within my rights to walk down the street at 3 am with a bag of cash waving it around and yelling at the top of my lungs how much cash I have and how it would be a shame if someone stole it. Do you think people would have a lot of sympathy for me if someone jumped me and stole the cash? How many people do you think would say ‘what a dumbass’ for doing that?

                  This brings us back to nuance. We can call out poor choices and warn people against repeating that behaviour while still thinking what happened to them is bad and unjust.

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                    You come in carrying on about freedom of speech

                    Now that’s just a lie. This is all that I said in regards to the U.S. Constitution:

                    Weird, I thought there was this thing called the second amendment that gun advocates always say is necessary to defend yourself against tyranny.

                    I’m going to ignore the rest of your post because you decided insults and lies are the way to go forward.

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                If that’s what you really meant from the start and if you know that people struggle with nuance then why didn’t you say what you just said instead of insulting people?

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        Wow you fucking muppet, answer the question or delete all your comments because you are making a fool of yourself in front of all these nice people