• NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      Actually we survived without energy use for hundreds of thousands of years before electricity was invented. So, that’s kind of a ridiculous statement to even make.

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        10 months ago

        No, we didn’t. Humans discovered fire a hell of a long time ago.

        And unless you’re willing to exterminate thousands for every one that lives, “go back to fire” isn’t theoretically possible either.

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          10 months ago

          You know burning a fire isn’t the same as driving cars, planes, busses, heating houses with natural gas, oil, coal, etc right? You’re just being obtuse now, on purpose, and I don’t know why…

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            10 months ago

            For your batshit stated goal of “zero emissions no matter what”, they absolutely are the same thing. A fire is emissions.

            But again. Even theoretically going back to fire would only be possible if you exterminated the overwhelming majority of humanity.

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              10 months ago

              Zero emissions can be achieved with renewable energy sources. There are lots of them. Nothing bat shit crazy about that. You’ve bought in to some serious propaganda unfortunately. We have the technology at this very moment to switch over fully renewable sources. But we haven’t because of money.

              It’s sad that this is considered a controversial point of view at all. Its been so highly politicized, for what, money, over the billions of lives we are going to lose in the coming decades?

              That’s the real insanity here, not what I advocate for.

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                10 months ago

                There are emissions from the manufacturing process. There will be emissions from recycling, there will be emissions period. Zero emissions is not realistic.

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                  10 months ago

                  Right, we should just accept the planet will become uninhabitable. That’s your message right now. And that’s the real insanity.