• ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca
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    So the article explains that official tournaments use a unique words list that contains a lot of generous words like “zzz” and “aa”. Mostly intended to allow high scoring words for people who studied their list.

    The company that maintains the list has added a lot more of these “not a real word but it scores high so we added it” words.

    For some highlight words from the article: MIREPOIXS, HORSEFEATHERSES, SUBSPECIESES, GRATINEEED

    Players are complaining that high level tournaments are basically going to be competitions for who knows the most gibberish from the tournament word list and it is alienating the general population from joining tournaments and scrabble clubs.

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      Shouldn’t the official word list just be the dictionary? Isn’t that the point?

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        it is, the scrabble dictionary. a dictionary is just a collection of words there are hundreds of kinds. most house rules for scrabble require the word to be in a dictionary that’s actually in the house or a pre-agreed on one online but at a tournament whose dictionary do you use? Well the scrabble tournament holders made their own and then modify that for local languages and such.

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          Something about it just seems to miss the point of the game. You would think their dictionary would be cut down to include commonly known words mixed in with some eccentric ones. If anything, to prevent a situation like this where tournament players are just memorizing gobbledygook for points. Seems like it muttles the fun.

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            The only good way to play scrabble is by adding the rule that you must play the funniest word you can make.

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              I have had the most fun when i used to play with categories for double points. Having to explain why such and such belongs is half the fun.

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        Which dictionary? Merriam Webster added almost 700 “words” this year, including shit like: TTYL, finsta, bussin, cromulent, doggo, simp, goated, and more. I feel like they are slowly becoming urbandictionary.com.

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          I mean, their job is to provide definitions for the words people use in language, not to gatekeep what words are “good enough” to be defined.

          I hear each of the words you’ve listed all the time, they’re part of our language whether we like it or not.

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            My point was more about which dictionary do you use and less about the exact words added. Webster added them, but Oxford and American Heritage didn’t.

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                Now I want to play a game of scrabble where you play a complete nonsense word, and your points are the number of Google results for that word - lowest points wins. And maybe you have 5 letters instead of 7.

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          I would rather be able to spell out bussin’ for points than zzzz, aaa, or Mieropoix. At least it is a word people actually use in conversation.

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            Mirepoix is an ordinary word in cooking, but it’s an uncountable noun and they’re inventing a fake plural, like “featherses”.

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              Didnt it specifically say horsefeatherses in one of those comments? I start drawing the line there.

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          Modern dictionaries are descriptive not prescriptive. They don’t tell you how things should be spelled, or what meaning they should have. Instead, they report how things are spelled and what people think they mean in the real world.

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      I’m pretty sure the tournaments are just memorising lists. A man won the French competition without being able to speak French… He just memorised the accepted words.

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      Words in scrabble should be things that people actually use outside scrabble. It’s fair if that makes some leeway for slang. It’s also fair if it means that some really obscure words that nobody really uses get in. But, this seems over the line because they’re taking words that nobody uses, and tacking on un-grammatical endings.