Edit: good to see I woke the shills

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    10 months ago

    It’s too bad that not giving weapons to a genocidal government is not on one of those lists.

    I will never vote for anyone not currently involved in calling for a cease fire ever again.

    Not that it matters though, support for Biden has fallen to single digits among Muslims in the swing States, whose numbers are required to win those swing States.

    If stopping Trump was so important, why did Biden through it all away to support a genocide?

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      10 months ago

      How old are you?

      There’s literally never been a good position on the fucking decades long Israel conflict that will please people. Most people smart and/or old enough know to stay the fuck out of it. It’s a meme, for fuck’s sake. There was a Rick and Morty episode about it several years ago, that’s how much of a meme it is now.

      If you’re judging Biden by that, you’re obviously too young to remember the last time this volcano of shit erupted. Maybe look at other issues that impact American’s lives that don’t have to do with inane fantasies about Armageddon.

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        I’m forty fucking five. I want us to stay out of it. It’s our tax dollars that are paying for the weapons being used. This conflict exists BECAUSE we don’t stay out of it. If we did, Israel would have had to actually negotiate in good faith decades ago. You are directly paying to enact a genocide, because our current president is unwilling to tell Israel to knock it the fuck off.

        Reagan stopped Israel bombing in twenty minutes with a single phone call. (Not that Reagan is a good person, just that the capability exists for Biden, he just chooses not to use it.)

        I do remember Operation Cast Lead. I’m willing to bet that you didn’t even know the name of the last time it erupted. You’re so ignorant that you view actual knowledge and lived experience as ignorance, because you’re so ignorant you don’t know how ignorant you are.

        Finally, this is not inane you fucking moron, you have no knowledge of foreign policy, and this very easily could erupt into a wider regional war that turns into WW3.

        P.S. It doesn’t matter what I think you fucking blood thirsty child murder justifying fuck, What matters is that a large enough percentage of voters in the mid-west swing states to be required for a Democratic win are Muslim. They correctly see Biden’s actions as enabling a genocide against a people they identify with. As a result, their support has dropped down to single digit support.

        Every other normally Democratic voter that wasn’t Muslim could choose to vote for Biden, and he would still lose due to actions that would have been possible for someone as idiotic as yourself to predict. The Biden administration has done it to themselves.

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      10 months ago

      “I’m so angry at this genocide abroad that I want the other guy to start up domestic genocide here too”.

      I’m sorry but this whole “Trump might win again because of Biden’s Israel policy” thing is just insane to me. Trump would wipe out the Palestinians too, given the incentive, since they’re not white. He’d just kill the Israelis at the same time because they’re Jews.

      I think it’s disgusting that Biden isn’t pushing hard for a ceasefire and some serious diplomatic interventions instead of the bullshit he is, but there’s a 0% chance I vote for anyone beside the guy in the dem seat, Biden or otherwise, because I don’t want to get sent to the death camps by the final President for Life after a republican victory.

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        Trump would never kill the Jews. Not because he cares about them at all (in fact, if it were profitable for him, he absolutely would), but his biggest supporters are evangelicals who need the Jews to be in control of the region in order to bring on their Armageddon.

        I am not kidding:

        Prophetic Anticipation Builds: Unblemished Red Heifers for Temple Ceremony Soon Come of Age

        There are tons of articles like that from evangelical groups. They legitimately think this is the end times, and they’re happy to see all of us burn for it. They publicly say climate change isn’t real, but privately they say it’s ordained and a sign of the apocalypse. They’re against people doing anything about it, and there are Dominionists in Congress and the Supreme Court. They’re going to kill us all if they can.

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        10 months ago

        You literally didn’t read a goddamn thing I said.

        It doesn’t matter who I vote for.

        Arab-Americans form a large population in the mid-west swing states. This is a known fact.

        They are a requisite component for the coalition that allows the Democratic party to win presidential elections in the mid-west swing states. This is also a known fact.

        It requires very little intuition to know that Arab-Americans will react negatively to a person who approves of and enables the genocide of a civilian population group that they identify with.

        That is what happened. Support has dropped for Biden among Arab-Americans in the swing states to a single digit.

        Every other typically Democratic voting demographic group could vote the same as they normally do, and Biden would lose due to loss of a key member of the swing state coalition.

        Biden took that action, knowing it would likely blow up his Arab-American support so that he could give weapons and support to a group that has so far killed at least 5000 children. If you sort them in order of age, it takes six pages to get to a child older than 0. That was what he was willing to destroy his chances of getting re-elected for.

        I’m not arguing that anyone should vote, or not vote for Biden. I’m saying that a win is now impossible due to his administrations actions regardless of what I, individually, do. If you want to be angry about Trump becoming a fucking dictator, be mad at the person who made it a certainty so he could help kill 5000 children.

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      10 months ago

      Unfortunately in our current election system, voting for the lesser evil is what we have to do.

      Vote with your heart in the primaries, vote strategically in the end. So is the curse of our first past the post voting system.

      And do what you can to help get the people who want to do positive change in your local elections into office. The only path to ranked choice voting is getting enough support in the states, there’s very little chance we’ll get it on the national stage without it becoming a reality on the state level.