Yeah, both sides amiright?

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    When I pointed out that Harris supporters shouldn’t have embraced genocide on the day of the election I got a temp ban for “trolling”.

    Maybe do some introspection.

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          Weird how repeatedly calling for an immediate cease fire and a two state solution in Israel = “Harris genocide”.

          Removed for misinformation.

          March - https://www.npr.org/2024/03/04/1234822836/kamala-harris-benny-gantz-gaza-cease-fire-israel-hamas

          “Monday’s meeting in Washington, D.C., comes one day after Harris called for an immediate, temporary cease-fire in Gaza to facilitate an exchange of Israeli hostages for Palestinian prisoners and detainees. Harris is expected to continue pressing Israel to pause the fighting and allow more humanitarian aid into Gaza.”

          July - https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/25/harris-netanyahu-israel-cease-fire-00171315

          “Vice President Kamala Harris met with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in private Thursday and followed it with a strikingly forceful call on his government to get a cease-fire deal done and ease the suffering of civilians in Gaza.”

          September - https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/harris-trump-presidential-debate-election-2024/card/harris-calls-for-ceasefire-in-gaza-while-trump-claims-she-hates-israel--isokhfqmy6EgRGrUOSuK

          “Vice President Kamala Harris reiterated her call for a ceasefire-for-hostage deal in Gaza while expressing sympathy for both Israelis and Palestinians affected by the conflict. Harris condemned the Oct. 7 attack by Hamas on southern Israel but said “far too many innocent Palestinians have been killed” by Israel’s ongoing military offensive in Gaza.”

          Do you get something out of mis-representing what she said and did? Or were you just not actually paying attention?

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              As I’ve told multiple propagandists, the support for Israel was for proper Israeli defense, NOT the genocide.

              Nobody, not a single person, in the Biden Administration, delivered weapons with the explicit permission of “By all means, kill as many Palestinians as you want.”

              The Israelis misappropriated the weapons to do that.

              Feel free to blame Netanyahu and Likud for the genocide all you want, they are the ACTUAL perpetrators.

              You should be able to tell this because the genocide started 10/7 before a dime of US aid had been promised or delivered.

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                They’re still sending weapons. You can’t keep giving guns to a guy that keeps murdering people, and then say “I told him not to murder people it’s not my fault”. How would that hold up in court?

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                  As long as Israel is under threat from Iran and other forces, we will continue sending them weapons and support. That’s the entire stated reason for supporting them.

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                    And Israel keeps mass-murdering civilians with said weapons and the US govt knows it.

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          Am I? If you don’t think we get more genocide with Trump you are willfully not paying attention.

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            Almost everyone in north Gaza will be dead by new years. That happened entirely under Biden. Do you think Trump will kill them a second time?

            We all know Trump is objectively worse but your argument is terrible; it’s like the Americans saying we should overlook Bush’s atrocities like Abu Ghraib because Saddam Hussein was worse. No, that’s just a fallacy.

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              Your premise is based on this: "Almost everyone in north Gaza will be dead by new years. "

              Which is clearly and obviously false. Check back with me on Jan 1.

              “Do you think Trump will kill them a second time?”

              The Trump administration will enable the complete erasure of the Palestinian people and their land. Huckabee has said as much already. Israelis have said as much too. I believe them.

              Finally, do you think nothing else matters? Do you think the consequences of a Trump administration beyond Palestine don’t matter? If so, I’d encourage you to spend less time virtue signaling and more time checking your privilege.