That’s all.

EDIT: Thank you all for detailing your experience with, and hatred for, this miserable product. Your display of solidarity is inspiring. Now, say it with me:

Fuck Microsoft

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    I mean, with winter coming in, and universities not bothering to heat the building, teams turning my potato work laptop into a furnace is the only thing keeping us warm this winter…

    Serious question - is their long term strategy bad optimisation to sell hardware? Do they have shares in intel or something?!?

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    My company has teams and slack and IT wants to switch to all teams. The thread where they announced this had to be locked. :D I don’t know how a trillion dollar company can’t get this right. Worst yet the bundle that shit with everything and overworked IT depts pick it by default.

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      There shouldn’t be worms in the poop of a healthy dog. This analogy just keeps getting better and more accurate.

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      Oooh, I hate it so bad…… I used to click “Save” and my word document would ask to save in the only folder I save ALL my documents in. Change the name, save, so easy!

      Now it asks if I want to save to OneDrive… Fuck No Mr Paperclip! I want it in the folder I always use and don’t want to have to select “Other” then dig through screens to select the thing I use every time!

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      Onedrive is pretty ok, other than being annoying. A company I worked for was acquired by another company that had their own cloud storage product. After the acquisition, they forced us to migrate from onedrive to their product. It was so bad… Files would constantly corrupt and disappear, the speed was terrible, trying to share files didn’t work half the time, when sharing folders the people you shared with wouldn’t see all the files in the folder. They also limited our storage from 1TB to 25GB making it pretty useless for storing builds of our product or trying to share VMs.

      And the worst part is that they also closed our SMB network share to force us to use that piece of shit.

      After that experience, I will never complain about Onedrive again.

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    Of all the Microsoft products I’m forced to use for work, teams is by far the best. It still sucks. Fuck Microsoft. Fuck monopolies.

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    I mean , works for me. You know what is complete bullshit?

    SKYPE. Using that in a work environment is a nightmare

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    Since I have not seen anyone mention this problem yet: Teams doesn’t let you mute other people in a call for yourself. Obviously also no volume control per person. Imagine sitting next to your coworker in a teams meeting and having to deal with hearing them twice with like 20 ms delay. Awful.

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      The new outlook has exceeded “garbage” and gone all the way to dumpster fire. It sometimes takes upwards of 15, 30 seconds to open an email. The new auto formatting is a hindrance to be overcome by tricking it to act how you want. Trying to schedule an event across timezones shits the bed half the time, resulting in improper meeting times being sent out. Absolute failure.

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        New Outlook also doesn’t support Really Simple Syndication, which I used a lot with the Old Outlook.

        So back to old Outlook I go.

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        My CISO has all but said he’s going to prevent any auto-rollout of that shit because it breaks decades of user training and TRUNCATES THE FRONT OF THE URL, NOT THE BACK LIKE ANY SENSIBLE APPLICATION.

        Like, let’s make it so Steve in accounting can’t see that the login link he wants to click is actually haxxor.com instead of bank.com, makes perfect fucking sense.

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        Wait, really? I’ve found the new outlook opens emails faster than the old one, especially the HTML-heavy ones that my work loves to send me.

        The refactor to the rules UI is really nice too, the old one was so crusty. Can’t comment on the timezone issue though.

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          I’ve been told the extended time to open is related to how big the outlook database is, I average 200 emails received a day with various alerts and notifications from internal tools and it cripples new outlook in about a week if I’m not diligent with keeping folders cleaned out/emails deleted. This volume wasn’t a issue before I switched.

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            Ah so your issue is, let me see here… Ah, actually using Outlook like a normal user.

            I’ve tried switching to Thunderbird myself but it doesn’t support Office 365 without a third party service. So I feel stuck with Outlook.

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              Ah, actually using Outlook like a normal user.

              Ha, right? I’m keeping my fingers crossed there is some executive at MS raging and it will get resolved before they force everyone off the legacy version. Surely there are people inside their organization with tons more traffic than I see.

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                There’s probably a microsoft engineer out there somewhere sitting in a cubical who has the solution already written and tested and they just can’t figure out how to send it to their boss. They’ve tried outlook, teams, github, skype, and even one drive but they’re all so broken that it may just be faster to print the code out and mail it.

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        I accidentally switched to it and it dropped all my non-MS mailboxes. Then when I immediately switched back it had the gall to ask me why.

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        I will give respect where due: I like the sweep button. It’s handy for me personally, as someone who is on several email lists that are public-facing. That’s about it.

        Every attempt to help me automatically is a pain. Like most things in this vein it never learns what you’re trying to do, only what they would do in a given scenario that’s vaguely like ours.

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      I’ll die on the hill that classic outlook is far better than Gmail and similar web interfaces for email especially if you have long threads or lots of emails.

      Also somehow Google’s email search sucks so bad compared to searching in outlook.

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          It’s actually disturbing that Thunderbird is the only good smtp/imap client available and it’s not receiving that much funding.

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        I agree. The old Outlook was snappy and dense of information. The new Outlook is just a fucking web page.

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      If I’m being honest the only Microsoft product I actually like is Excel.

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        They’re doing their best to “improve” excel too… I can’t understand how their AI generated cell fill is worse than the old approach.

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    Microsoft Teams isn’t all bad! For example, it bogged down my work computer so much at start up that I would basically get an extra break.

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      It temporarily deletes my meetings just before they happen, so that I don’t have to attend them!

      Of course, when I open it later, the meetings are restored, with the original date, and no trace of the deletion. So not attending them is quite hard to explain to others. But it does save me from attending!

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    I have a Jabra Headset (now retired) that literally has a MS Teams logo on the side and is market as “Teams compatible”. As you might have guessed, Teams is the only VC app were I regularly have to switch betwen inputs to get the headset to work during a call.

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    Unpopular opinion: I actually like MS Teams

    Look, I know this might get downvoted, but Teams is… actually fine? Yeah, it’s not perfect, but it just works. The best part is that everyone and their grandma knows how to use it because it’s the corporate standard around here.

    I can’t tell you how much time I’ve saved not having to do the whole “can you hear me? let me try reconnecting… oh wait try updating your browser” dance that happens with other platforms. My company recently switched to Google Meet and honestly? It’s been a downgrade. Teams might not be the coolest kid on the block, but at least I’m not spending half my meetings troubleshooting audio and video issues.

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    Fuck Microsoft. But first, Fuck Google, Fuck Amazon, Fuck Facebook. I am sure I could think of a few more that are worse than Microsoft, as bad as they are.