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      Pretty sure they just reused the same video game animation from the last hospital.

      Either way, a cgi model is not proof.

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      While unsure about the Qatari hospital, this is not unfounded.

      https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-believes-hamas-used-al-shifa-hospital-evacuated-before-israeli-operation-2024-01-03/

      The U.S. intelligence assessment was reported first by the New York Times. A classified version of the assessment was sent to lawmakers in the U.S. Congress.

      Israeli tanks advanced on Gaza City’s Al Shifa hospital, with some patients still inside, in mid-November. Israel said the hospital sat atop tunnels housing headquarters for Hamas fighters using patients as shields, which Hamas denied.

      Israeli assessment’s was at least partially correct that some hostages were held at or under the complex but those hostages appeared to have been moved as Hamas evacuated, the New York Times reported.

      In November, White House national security spokesman John Kirby said, opens new tab Hamas militants were sheltering themselves in the hospital and using the facility as a shield against military action, placing patients and medical staff at risk.

      “We have our own intelligence that convinces us that Hamas was using Al Shifa as a command and control node, and most likely as well as a storage facility,” Kirby said in November. Washington had at the time not declassified the sources of the U.S. intelligence.

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        U.S. intelligence agencies have not disclosed the evidence on which they based their assessment. The official said the U.S. had independently confirmed the information.

        “Trust us bro. We had to commit war crimes bro.”

        U.S. intelligence agencies obtained information that Hamas fighters had largely evacuated the complex days before Israel’s operation and destroyed documents and electronics as they left, according to the American official.

        Oh so it was no longer being used as a base then? Why did they have to attack it then? Convenient that Hamas cleaned out the “base” before leaving.

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          Did Hamas let anyone know they were leaving?

          And the first meme doesn’t play in this situation.

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            Did Hamas let anyone know they were leaving?

            I would imagine they might have left some kind of trail along with the “undisclosed” intelligence that the US and Israel is claiming they have.

            And the first meme doesn’t play in this situation.

            Yes it does. You just don’t want it to.

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              When your second comment asks why it was “no longer” used as a base, “trust us bro” doesn’t work when you’re admitting yourself it was used as a base just prior.

              Perhaps Hamas could let anyone know they’re moving out.

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                Go back and read my comment. I never said I believed they were actually using it as a base. I was remarking how “convenient” it was that they claimed there was a base but there happened to be no evidence of the base when they attacked. It’s called sarcasm when my bullshit-o-meter goes off the charts.

                I’d rather Israel let everyone know when they move out.

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                  Ah gotcha, “didn’t really mean it,” and it isn’t the case that there was no evidence, the assessment was circulated to congress.

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    How much cash does the IDF have for their genocide operation? Their genocide seems much better funded.

    Why are Hamas’ bases in civilian areas called “human shields” while the IDFs are in “densely populated areas ”?

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      Based on their presented intelligence, the bunker is accessible from adjacent buildings, not the hospital itself. The bunker is said to be located beneath the hospital.

      https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/lebanese-hospital-opens-doors-to-journalists-aiming-to-disprove-idf-claim-that-its-housing-hezbollah-cash-bunker/

      To all the journalists in Beirut, including those who participated in the press tour in the Al-Sahel Hospital, these are the entry instructions to Nasrallah’s bunker we exposed yesterday:

      According to intelligence information, one of the entrances to the bunker, containing more than half a billion dollars in gold and dollars, is on the eastern side of the basement of the Al-Ahmedi building, located south of the Al-Sahel hospital.

      The basement is on the second floor down (level -2).

      It is important to note that it is possible the entrance is hidden by various means in order to make it difficult to find.

      We invite you to this site in which Hezbollah is holding money that was taken from the Lebanese people.

      Edit:

      https://www.lbcgroup.tv/news/news-bulletin-reports/808268/lbci-enters-sahel-general-hospital-amid-israeli-allegations-of-hezboll/en

      As journalists arrived at the hospital and began coverage, Israeli army spokesperson Avichay Adraee posted a message on X, urging the media to move from the hospital to the specific sites he had revealed on a map.

      According to him, these sites would lead to Hezbollah’s underground bunker.

      LBCI attempted to approach the building Adraee referred to. However, young men were stationed below, locking its iron gates with chains. They prevented the crew from filming.

      Additionally, when LBCI tried to contact Hezbollah’s media representatives to demand permission to film inside the building, the request was declined.

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      https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/ynetnews/

      Ynet is considered center-left by Israeli standards. They oppose Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, such as this Naftali Bennett: The right-wing millionaire who may end Netanyahu era and support the left-leaning labor party Isaac Herzog elected 11th president of State of Israel.

      A review of numerous articles reveals them to be fact-based with a left-leaning bias. Ynet is also used as a reference for fact-checkers.

      Overall, we rate Ynetnews as Left-Center Biased based on editorial positions that moderately favor the left. We also rate them High for factual reporting due to proper sourcing and a clean fact-check record. (D. Van Zandt 5/19/2017) Updated (12/08/2023)