• yankaremonsters@leminal.space
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      1 hour ago

      Look I’d buy some nutella and spread it on the ballot. I want to pass a message but I’m classy like that.

      Anyway nobody’s asking me lmao fix your goddamn country.

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        59 minutes ago

        Nobody asks you to fix America, they asked you what choice you would make.

        Here are the options:
        -You can vote for a candidate that represents 10,000 people dying

        -You can vote for a candidate that represents 5,000 people dying

        -You can abstain and guarantee that the candidate that represents 10,000 people dying wins.

        These are your options. There are no other options. So maybe you value your own personal moral integrity more than the lives of 5,000 people, but any reasonable person will see that the second option is the only viable choice if you actually want to be decent.

        edit: formating

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          48 minutes ago

          I thought the reason why you guys had guns was for this kind of situation. Use them. A governement that gives you the choice between genocide and genocide sounds tyranical to me.

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            37 minutes ago

            Cool man, you successfully recognized that class divide exists in the US just as much as anywhere else and that the ruling class are a minority whose decisions don’t represent the working class. Kudos to you for your next-level observation skills!

            Here’s the thing though: even if we do spark up the fires of revolution tomorrow, you know what? It’s probably gonna take more than a month. In the meantime, there is still going to be an American president and there is still going to be an election the fate of which will still have real world impact immediately, including in regards to the Palestinian genocide. Which means even if we’re marching up on the White House in victory 8 months (imagining an impossibly best-case fictional scenario here) for now we still have the weight of the choice for President and the inordinate amount of very real lives that decision impacts, both domestically and abroad. So again, any decent person will make the moral choice for harm reduction; whether they acknowledge more needs to be on the personal level to solve the greater issues or not.

            Stop letting your childish hateboner for America steal all the blood flow from your brain.

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              30 minutes ago

              But I was about to hatecum :( meanie

              Look I understand your pov. Just realize that from the outside it sounds like you’re throwing the “third world” under the bus. Like everytime. US external policy never ceased to be shit so don’t be suprised if foreigners are bothsidists.

              Anyway stay safe.

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                Again, you’ve successfully recognized that America puts its own interests before the interests of foreign nations, same as everywhere else.

                For all the shit the world likes to give America for acting like the world police or arbiters of society, rightly so btw, ya’ll keep expecting America to act different too. If you think America is deceptive or evil or whatever in our attempts to be the world police, then just stop believing the lie. Don’t expect America to be any more altruistic than any other nation and I think it all makes sense. Imo there is no “third world”; people are mostly the same everywhere. Every nation is selfish and every nation is dealing with some level of corruption - so why in the world would you begrudge the people of America for trying their hardest to at least do what they can to reduce the harmful impact of that corruption?