I’m pulling for Monday. Friday’s already mostly a write-off.
Can we do half-days? I would like to take Wednesday afternoon off as well as Friday afternoon. Longer weekend with a little break in the week.
I second this, but only for work from home folks.
4-days-of-work week doesn’t have to be full on-site. I would also like to work from home those mornings and Monday. This way, I’m at the office only twice a week and I never do two days of commute consecutively.
I’m lucky to have been able to experiment a bit with this as my work is flexible and I’m in a pretty good bargaining position. I also do a fair bit of unpaid work out of hours.
Having either Friday or Monday I’ve found to be little different. Having alternating Fridays and Mondays is pretty awesome, 4 days on, 2 off, 4 on, 4 off.
There’s a lot to be said for a mid week day off too. I’m looking at moving to a new employer and hoping to go negotiate a 3 day week, maybe Mon-Tues-Thur for example which will be heaven if I can pull it off.
Neither. I’d remove Wednesdays.
Middle of the week off day lets you get all your errands done with little annoyance from or waiting behind the public, so you get everything knocked out and have your weekends 100% for you.
More importantly, on a 4 day workweek with Wed/Weekend off, you NEVER work more than two consecutive days. Ever. It’s fantastic.
Fuck that I’ve done schedules like that before . . I’d much rather just take 3 days in a row. Able to rest so much more. Obviously personal preference though!
If everyone had Wednesday off you would need to contend with the public though.
Fuck that. Yeah it means you can stay out later Tuesday, but you can’t do jack shit Wednesday knowing that Thursday is coming up. I’d rather have another Saturday than another Sunday if that makes sense.
I used to work a compressed week and started taking Monday but eventually it moved to Friday. When I took Monday off I felt like I had to pay for it with the next four days, when I took Friday it was like I was being rewarded with an early weekend.
I love using Wednesdays to clear leave (I know, not the best day in terms of utility for holidays and stuff) as you essentially create a new Friday. Work is so much more bearable.
What’s clearing leave? Is that an American concept?
Sounds like a military thing? Not a normal US civilian worker phrase.
Yes, paid time off requests or advanced request to use leave (doctor appointment, or other) is typical for any planned absenced in the US.
It’s the smartest option.
This is the way
Monday.
Super optimistic title there lol
I’m with Cowbee. I don’t see this happening outside of a few mom and pop places that decide to do it on their own until “government” forces the change. Just look at the 3 letter jackasses freaking out about WFH.
I was looking for fully remote jobs recently. All the local jobs are back to 3 days in office. One of the recruiters said something like “our employees are happy to go into the office three days a week” and my eyes nearly rolled out of my skull.
“Happy”
It felt more like a threat. Like “if you’re not the type of person to enjoy that then look somewhere else”
Proper read…
People who think this is happening haven’t learned who owns them. A lot of learning to do.
If those 4 days also mean 12 hour days, than im not too sure if I’d want thay
I worked a couple 12 hour shifts before, and they left me even more miserably than work usually did
That’s not usually what is meant by proponents of the 4 day work week. Instead, they’re usually referring to four 8-hour days.
i see, well, because of where i live, id take monday than
Id rather kill Wednesday.
I’d be so disappointed by this.
Every time I take a day off midweek, it feels like doubling the number of weeks in the week, rather than reducing the number of days.
I’ve found it precisely the opposite: Monday is like a Thursday (so experientially two Thursdays and two Fridays) with a free day to schedule doctor’s appointments, car fixes, and all the other little things you’d normally have to take PTO for but now do not
Wait, so you get a 4 day week but everyone else has to do 5 days so you can go to your appointments?
When I worked 32 hours at my first job I took out the Wednesday. It’s a great rhythm to get into, two days of work and a day or two in between.
UK majority of the bank holidays are on a Monday, so Fridays would be nice as otherwise you’d lose them and what would become long weekends now.
UK we are seeing a very slow shift to 4 day weeks for more privileged jobs, I work with two people who both have Fridays off as it’s an actual thing you can apply for at my employer.
While the Tories stopped councils from offering 4 day weeks to employees, it’s got to be coming back, further spreading its availability.
Hope this is around when I get a job
Alternating Mondays and Fridays. This gets you alternating two day weekends and 4 day weekends
This is a cool idea that I didn’t consider.
The 4 day work week likely won’t be established as the standard until Socialism is achieved and the bourgeoisie overthrown, but when that happens it will depend on the job and sector, likely working with different shifts to maintain 24/7 production but with lower workload. Probably a move to a 30 hour work-week, like what PSL suggests.
Don’t be so cynical!
The 4 day work week could be established under capitalism so it’s easier to have two fulltime jobs. 💀
But working multiple jobs is cheating on your employer
I hate that you’re right…
Nah we’ll move to a three day work week but America will require you to work a minimum of 48 hours to qualify as full time.
“So, you’re the lead back-end engineer, the HR and the floor cleaner for 10$ an hour? Good, now go back to your cage, wagie.” 👴🏻
I also vote Monday. Seems to be easier to get back to work after a Monday holiday vs a Friday holiday.
realistically, if we move to a four-day world week it won’t be the same four days for everyone
Those are the only two days you could have picked where it wouldn’t make a difference. Either way you have 4 consecutive days of work followed by 3 free days.
Why in the world would you pick any other day?
I wouldn’t be opposed to the idea of having wednesday intermission instead of a 3 day weekend.
But the proper thing to do would calculate which weekedays have the least amount of fixed holidays and then pick one of those.
Tuesday would immediately become the new Monday and everyone would get the Monday scaries. The start of a series of work days will always be a bummer, no matter what you call it.
We did four 10s at my last job, rotating every quarter whether you had off Monday or Friday. Personally I much preferred working the quieter Monday to the boring Friday. Tuesday became the new Monday as that’s when everyone was back in office. I didn’t feel the quiet Monday when you had half-ish the staff working was too bad, but the quiet Fridays really dragged. Quiet Monday was a nice ramp up to Tuesday, I got a lot of shit done on those Mondays.
I’d say there is a difference to which day you choose off. It doesn’t seem like there would be a difference but I definitely felt it.
Ok, I wasn’t considering a rotation where the workplace would be partially staffed Mondays and Fridays. That makes a lot of sense. I was imagining everyone having off Saturday-Mondthatn a more universal weekend, which I think would not be practical for getting things accomplished. In that case I see what you mean about Mondays.
It was a hospital IT job so we couldn’t do everyone on the same schedule. My estimate would be 40% stayed on traditional M-F 8s, 30% on M-Th 10s, and 30% on Tu-F 10s. Quiet Monday was nice, quiet Friday really dragged, especially after lunch. I was way more productive working on Monday vs Friday.
The hybrid schedule worked pretty good for coverage, we also had staggered start times so there was always someone around M-F 6a-6p. Tuesday through Thursday was packed with meetings as that’s when you really had 100% of everyone working.
