I’m sorry, I don’t understand how that absolves the current US administration of responsibility for their own policies and actions?
You’re doing whataboutism to support an ongoing genocide.
Anyone who claims that calling out Biden for his support of Israel in prosecuting this genocide, somehow either means they’re Trump voter, or are helping Trump get elected, are truly sick and deranged individuals.
Because the unsaid part of that, the quiet part not being said out loud, is that the right thing to do is to either stay silent, or lie, about a fucking genocide.
What an incredibly sick and perverse way to view politics.
First, Israel has access to several “emergency” supply caches in the area (that we actively replenish).
Secondly, any aid we cut off, say in March 2024 when it was overly clear what Israel was doing, they would still not be close to emptying their stockpile.
Thirdly, AIPAC would galvanize congress, the media, and then they would be shoveling aid to Israel and overriding Biden’s veto.
Fourthly, the US doesn’t have a monopoly on weapons export. I guarantee that other countries who are antagonist towards the US would step hand over fist to supply Israel with everything they need – or worse – because it weakens the US.
That isn’t hyperbole. It’s geopolitics.
So what’s worse?
A rogue client state that is itching to attack Iran and start wwIII with shout 50% of Congress in a death cult which requires Israel to exist to be destroyed so that sky lord can come and save them.
Or India getting a free field test of their armament?
One of those two options feeds the military industrial complex and the economy by extension. The other makes Pakistan enter the conflict. Now you have a regional war.
None of these things are good. But calling your congressman is a better use of your energy than yelling at idiots on Lemmy.
Just so we’re clear, your position is that Biden is at fault, but if he wasn’t supporting this genocide, it would actually be worse?
It’s late, and I’m watching the fights, so I don’t have my full attention to spare, but I had enough available to read your comment and see that that you’re being earnest in your argument, and your analysis is not disingenuous.
That’s important to me, because while it’s really bad, it also means that you’re probably not a bad person.
For starters, it’s all counterfactuals, and while that alone means it’s a just barrel of formal and informal fallacies, it’s also based on deeply flawed, or just grossly uneducated, misunderstandings of a wide range of fields, ranging from international relations, to military procurement and sustainment.
I’m not trying to be mean, and to be fair, I have an academic background in multiple fields related to these subjects, so I’m not pulling my criticism out of my ass.
But another fight is about to start, so my text to speech comment must end.
I’m sorry, I don’t understand how that absolves the current US administration of responsibility for their own policies and actions?
You’re doing whataboutism to support an ongoing genocide.
Anyone who claims that calling out Biden for his support of Israel in prosecuting this genocide, somehow either means they’re Trump voter, or are helping Trump get elected, are truly sick and deranged individuals.
Because the unsaid part of that, the quiet part not being said out loud, is that the right thing to do is to either stay silent, or lie, about a fucking genocide.
What an incredibly sick and perverse way to view politics.
It’s cool how you misunderstand people here and then concluded they are sick in the mind. That’s totally healthy behavior.
Again, I’m not the one who lacks understandings of the historical and political context of the region, or conflict.
Just to be clear, your support of genocide is definitely a normal and healthy behavior, and a sign of good moral character.
Please keep going. I love it when people self-report. Pleass continue to make blanket statements about me like this, I am almost there.
You realize that I’m responding based content of your comments, right…?
I mean, I guess it’s possible you’re just the poster boy for badhistory, but typically in these comment sections that’s a sign of something else.
So, if you aren’t actually a supporter of genocide, and are instead just incredibly confused and uneducated, I apologize.
Or maybe it’s possible you are engaging in friendly fire. Apologies for not pointing that out sooner.
Did I call you a Trump voter?
Is Biden running for reelection?
So you honestly think that Israel thinks that they’re the client state?
AIPAC owns the majority of the House and Senate.
Even if Biden stopped aid, there’s enough votes to override the veto.
Think critically and not with regurgitated talking points.
Here’s an article from 12 years ago that is still relevant:
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/03/america-israel-aipac-and-iran-the-client-state-factor/254103/
No, you just did whataboutism.
Which is why I separated my other commentary, and addressed it in general, and not directly at you.
Because while it’s related to your comment, you hadn’t crossed that bridge yet, but there’s no shortage of that in these comments, read up and down.
Israel knows their client state, including the IDF and political leadership. Do you even read Israeli newspapers regularly?
I’m well aware of AIPAC, and the extent of their lobbying and influence operations.
None of that has anything to do with what I’ve been talking about.
It absolutely does, Biden is a Zionist.
He is a proud and open one.
Could he cut off lethal aid? Absolutely!
But what would that accomplish?
First, Israel has access to several “emergency” supply caches in the area (that we actively replenish).
Secondly, any aid we cut off, say in March 2024 when it was overly clear what Israel was doing, they would still not be close to emptying their stockpile.
Thirdly, AIPAC would galvanize congress, the media, and then they would be shoveling aid to Israel and overriding Biden’s veto.
Fourthly, the US doesn’t have a monopoly on weapons export. I guarantee that other countries who are antagonist towards the US would step hand over fist to supply Israel with everything they need – or worse – because it weakens the US.
That isn’t hyperbole. It’s geopolitics.
So what’s worse?
A rogue client state that is itching to attack Iran and start wwIII with shout 50% of Congress in a death cult which requires Israel to exist to be destroyed so that sky lord can come and save them.
Or India getting a free field test of their armament?
One of those two options feeds the military industrial complex and the economy by extension. The other makes Pakistan enter the conflict. Now you have a regional war.
None of these things are good. But calling your congressman is a better use of your energy than yelling at idiots on Lemmy.
Signed - a fellow idiot.
Just so we’re clear, your position is that Biden is at fault, but if he wasn’t supporting this genocide, it would actually be worse?
It’s late, and I’m watching the fights, so I don’t have my full attention to spare, but I had enough available to read your comment and see that that you’re being earnest in your argument, and your analysis is not disingenuous.
That’s important to me, because while it’s really bad, it also means that you’re probably not a bad person.
For starters, it’s all counterfactuals, and while that alone means it’s a just barrel of formal and informal fallacies, it’s also based on deeply flawed, or just grossly uneducated, misunderstandings of a wide range of fields, ranging from international relations, to military procurement and sustainment.
I’m not trying to be mean, and to be fair, I have an academic background in multiple fields related to these subjects, so I’m not pulling my criticism out of my ass.
But another fight is about to start, so my text to speech comment must end.