I’m going to be building a new computer soon for myself. (Going AMD for the first time, since intel microcode issue.)
I would say I’m an expert or advanced user, as been using pcs for 25 years and set up arch and slackware in the past. I have tried many distros and would like some feedback.
I mainly use my pc for gaming. I want something customizable, KDE ish, and without bloatware. A good wiki is a plus.
I think that i may end up with arch… is it better for gaming since it’s bleeding edge and isn’t steamos built off it?
Side question is distro chooser accurate?
Since no one answered you here, I’ll say distrochooser.de isn’t bad at all. For the new linux user who is comfortable enough trying new things, I think it’s perfect. It does lose its usefulness if you’ve already tried all of the options it offers, but at that point you probably don’t need distrochooser anyway.
Awesome, thanks I appreciate the response. This makes sense.
I use arch btw
OpenSuse Tumbleweed.
I run Gentoo as my main distro, and have for a couple years now. It’s a pretty stable rolling release (IMO more stable than Arch), and since you’re already an advanced user, the experience should be pretty rewarding!
The wiki is great, and the installation handbook is top notch.
You get to control exactly what features each package is compiled with, so no bloat at all.
KDE 6 just landed too!
Thanks, I’m investigating Gentoo. It’s rolling release and custom built. Updated frequently is good and stability is good too, IMO.
I like CachyOS
Arch is pretty good, but it’s fairly easy to break it, if you don’t know what you’re doing. For gamers I recommend Bazzite. It’s an image-based fork of Fedora Atomic (Universal Blue). You can also try other ublue-based distros such as Aurora or Bluefin. Or Fedora Atomic flavors like Silverblue and Kinoite. In fact, you can easily switch between them without reinstalling your system. All it takes is one command, and ostree will do the magic.
Thanks for the links. I’ll read up on it.
I haven’t seen many mentions of Nobara but you can try it out.
It’s essentially a gaming-centric version of Fedora. I was in your position a few weeks back and decided upon thing. Latest drivers and packages.
So you have a lot of suggestions in this thread.
I have an unconventional one:
Red hat.
You can use it for free as long as you register on their website.
The benefit: lots of documentation, a significantly different way of thinking about things (it asks you to define a compliance posture out of the box lol) and a package manager that does a lot of things right.
You said yourself youve been in the game for a while. Why not try being agent smith instead of neo?
No, thanks.
EndeavourOS, Simply Arch with an installer, has KDE as an option for DE.
I use it, I love it. Arch is great. E-OS just cuts out the first few hours/days of set up.
Lol that’s on my current rig. It’s not bad, but I feel if that I’ll end up back on arch instead of having the endeavouros overlay.
Why?
As I said, to avoid bloat, why run an os over an os? Endeavouros has its update but there’s also an arch update. I don’t need hand holding for the install and that’s one of the benefits of Endeavouros, at least that’s my understanding.
It is not a OS over an OS just some packages that are preinstalled
EndeavourOS has its own packages ( https://github.com/endeavouros-team/PKGBUILDS ), but they are mostly driver stuff and some presets for the different desktop environments. Rest is all from arch, arch extra, arch extra multilib(32bit) and AUR.
And yea, you understand it right, if you don’t want help managing arch, it is not for you.
EOS is about 24 additional packages on top of the 70,000 Arch already offers, many of which are already on the AUR ( like yay and paru ). EOS uses the real Arch kernel. Once installed, EOS is Arch in my view.
There are not “two updates”. It is not an OS over an OS. EOS is awesome but it is a glorified Arch installer with opinionated defaults.
Endeavour is really good
Endeavour is great but it’s not simply Arch with an installer. Quite a few things are configured differently under the hood.
Personally, I find Debian pretty good these days. I used to default to Testing, but I’ve gravitated towards stable.
Honestly, in the age of Flatpak and Steam, almost any distro works.
Ok thanks. Good to hear.
Funny, flatpak works on MX, but it kills performance. I launch any flatpak program and it’s literally up to five minutes to launch. After re-imaging and using AppImages instead, it’s blazing fast. There must be something about the way MX implements flatpaks that screws the pooch.
nah, it’s basically my experience with flatpak and snaps on ANY distro on ANY machine. the fact that everyone’s moving to this crap is beyond me. Am I the only person on the planet that expects a modern computer to run snappier than a PC from early 2000? sure seems like it sometimes, especially when pretty much any software released since 2018 runs electron. Hell, now every manufacturer is moving to ARM like it’s some revolutionary hardware - no, it just vastly improved energy usage AT THE EXPENSE OF PERFORMANCE. we might as well stick with what we have and just pump less energy into the damn thing and have the exact same results.
blimey.
I get the convenience; I do …but it can’t possibly be worth the sacrifices?? sigh.
the day of coders who knew what they were doing is long since gone. now it’s just click and play frameworks to pump out garbage and oversaturate the ecosystem.
Arch w/ KDE gamer here. I have generally had a good experience with it. I think everything you said is generally accurate. In terms of customization, lack of bloat, and a good wiki, Arch is generally considered to be all of those things. A rolling distro like Arch I believe will also be getting the latest proton updates, which may help with sooner game compatibility/optimization updates on more recent releases.
I say go for it.
Thanks for your feedback.
Because others already suggested Arch/ EndeavourOS, I’ll be suggesting something else: Bazzite.
It’s part of the image based (“immutable”) Fedora series and is basically Fedora Kinoite, with all drivers and codecs already set up for you, self managing, with many gaming tweaks included.
It’s rock solid and basically unbreakable, while also being extremely modern and updated. On Arch, even if it doesn’t break, you always get the newest stuff, which might not be as polished. On Fedora, it matures a few months, while still being very modern.
The main target group is “For Linux users who don’t want to use Linux”, meaning, it runs all your favourite stuff (KDE, etc.) without having to care for anything. It even updates itself automatically in the background without any interference.
If you prefer something with less “bloat” (a lot of optional tools and software to choose from, but nothing mandatory), then check out Aurora, which is basically the same, but without gaming stuff.
For more information, check out universal-blue.org
Just a small heads up for OP: You have to do quite a lot of (advanced) things differently from now on if you choose Atomic.
Use containers (Distrobox, etc.) for everything you can, avoid installing stuff on the host if possible, etc.
Just use Flatpaks for 95% you do graphically, and for CLI stuff or software that isn’t available as Flatpak, I would recommend you to create an Arch Distrobox container (already set up IIRC) and use that. You can even install stuff from the AUR and export it, so it works just like it is supposed to.
Thanks for the detailed response. Yeah I’m reading up on distrobox.
Look into:
- Bazzite (Fedora Atomic)
- Nobara (Fedora)
- ChimeraOS (Arch, AMD-only)
- Garuda (Arch)
All are preconfigured for gaming. Bazzite and Nobara use the fsync kernel, not sure what Chimera uses, and Garuda uses the zen kernel.
Otherwise, Arch is still the most popular choice for gaming if you look at the statistics.
Thanks, I’ll look into them.
I use Debian stable because I’m tired of constantly twiddling with breaking stuff, I just want a distro that keeps working without issues and tinkering.
If you still want to learn Linux stuff and debug packages, then go for a bleeding edge distro.
Understood, thanks for the response.
I always come back to OpenSuse Tumbleweed. Once I have everything setup, it’s stable as a rock and kde works really well on it.
Not many of you left these days it feels, any debate I always see openSUSE is missing, I don’t use it myself atm, but it was my rock in the past. Either openSUSE community is not vocal or it’s just very tiny on lemmy.
