Holy shit, people are still trying that lie? We’ve known that’s a lie for a while:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/02/28/extremism-right-wing-deaths/
Reality means nothing to conservatives or they wouldn’t be conservatives.
I heard a guy with a theory that it’s all kayfabe and it makes so much sense. They know it’s a lie and they believe it because it’s more satisfying than reality.
The only ones I’ve heard using that term were equally nuts Marxist leninist. Not a good term or a good Association unfortunately.
So it’s like covfefe?
No it is a reference to the fake performative nature of professional wrestling. Juvenile reductive and not really applicable.
Recently was talking to a conservative guy about the rising fascist on the right.
I wasn’t calling him a fascist, just pointing out that extreme views are brewing on the right and I think that could be a problem.
He just responded with “but the left are the ones committing all the genocides”. No examples or anything to back that up.
I honestly didn’t know how to respond. He also supports Israel so… they literally live in a different reality. They probably consume propaganda that constantly tells them the left are this terrible boogeymen.
This is a direct results of consolidation of the media. Mass media is all owned by just a few people/groups. Who despite claims otherwise absolutely practice editorialism over what their organizations present and how they present it. It is increasingly less possible to find what passes for mainstream American left getting actual proper representation on corporate media. And actual left-wing left gets zero or negative representation. Which is all by Design. Because it serves those people and groups and not the public as a whole.
So they realistically do live in an alternate reality. And short of taking them out of that media Echo sphere. There is nothing you individually can do to change or help that. You cannot help those who are not looking to be helped. So unless they come to you with concerns over breaking cognitive dissonance. There is basically little you can do. Other than push back respectfully or not.
Doublethink is real!
Also, I’ll have him know, as a liberal, I rarely even commit one genocide a day…so…
Note: as an ex-conservative that has been pushed to Vote Blue No Matter Who since trump, I still have a real, if tiny, physical reaction to calling myself a liberal…WHEN THE FK DOES THAT GO AWAY‽
Liberal just means centrist these days, maybe that term would work better for you?
Just wait until a socialist slips you estrogen 😉 /jk It will take time, lots of it. As long as you’re aware of it (I also feel it when “communism” is mentioned) you’re ok. Please don’t beat yourself up over it, love.
It’s such a flagrant lie, too. I mean, it’s not like it’s in the realm of close, of that it depends on how you interpret the data - there are way more on the right, period.
No, see, they are wholesome Christians who worship guns and fear mongering. They love phrases like fuck around and find out, don’t tread on me (or else), and something along the lines of this house is protected by Smith and Wesson. But Lincoln was a Republican killed by Democrats, so they are evil murderers. Please ignore that in today’s politics he would have been a far left woke Democrat killed by a Republican…
I hate putting this out there, but my hyper conservative dad when confronted with these and other links here about RvL terrorism…“because conservatives have the conviction and drive to take action!”
cant. win. JFC
In reality they aren’t true conservatives. They are a perverted and warped version that was invented to fulfill the MAGA Nazi agenda.
Right-wing extremists were just as likely to commit violent acts as those motivated by Islamic extremism, the researchers found. Left-wing extremists were a distant third.
Word.
The only thing white people are actually currently embracing with supremacy: violence against their own citizens.
With a majority of trans women being on the left, shouldn’t we be winning this by ubermensch margins?
He is projecting
GOP
His lips are moving.
Q: How can you tell when Donald Trump is lying? A: The tip of his ear is missing.
There should be consequences to blatant lies from the media and our politicians.
There are, already; their preferred candidates usually get a bump in polling. Why let the truth stand in the way of that?
It impresses me that people haven’t gone to Fox News HQ or any other to do something about it
They’ll just flip it and go see, we were right, the left are terrorists!! There needs to be enforced legislation. News should be news. It has to be factual and unbiased. Instead, we have corporations saying whatever the hell they want so their guy gets in and hurts the people they hate while giving them tax breaks.
News should be like the Michelin star system. One star means you are following basic reporting practices and can call yourself “reporters”. 4 star is “news” and you are held to stringent fact checking and balanced reporting practices and can call yourself News or have News in your name. 5star would be super special paragon of journalism, opinion-free reporting of facts thing. Zero stars would be “just asking questions here!” level.
No censorship or anything, just an indicator of how reliable sources are. And make it mandatory to display like their channel bug in the corner, but a restaurant grade type thing.
The problem still is, people will ignore that. Look at how many suckers believe fox “news” now? It wouldn’t change anything.
I can’t find anything in the article that suggests a reporter called out his lies to his face.
We need some real journalists covering these ghouls, not stenographers.
Got to find a way to pay them well tho
Yeah, revenue from click farming isn’t it or we’re doomed to drivel.
Yes, but that’s not going to change the minds of the people he was talking to.
As usual, the lie gets halfway around the world, before the truth has got its boots on.
One must really be missing more than few bricks off a wall to buy any of the statistics a right-wing think tank spits out.
Even the work “think tank” is disingenuous.
I think a lot of humanity just has a deep seated need to hear their own opinions repeated by somebody they think is better than them, be it an important man in a tie, a newspaper headline, or even just an influencer on TikTok.
And once they hear that one opinion, it leaves them wide open to accept pretty much anything that comes out of their mouths.
The old media, the TV networks, social media… It’s all there to push their own ideas masquerading as your own. Find an opening and shovel it in. I can’t claim immunity to it either. I’m perfectly happy to see “Brexit voters had lower levels of education” as a headline and think “yup, that makes sense”, while for all I know it could be complete bollocks.
There’s so much shit being thrown at you 24 hours a day, that you can’t even begin to fact check all of it.
Sadly true; brains are pattern-matching rationalization engines more than anything else. It’s a pretty simple, but very effective hack once you know the neural paths.
No, they think. They think up lies to tell.
Facts
1: Young people are predominantly left-leaning
2: Instances of criminal violence decline with age
3: Police/Military can’t commit criminal violence, because they are our friends. So nothing they do counts.
Conclusion
The majority of violence must be committed by The Left. I’m sorry, but facts don’t care about your feelings.
A missing /s? I guess pointing out one of many reasons, #3 is blatantly false. There are countless cops who have been charged with crimes that they commited while on duty, same for the malitary.
I hear the right are called the right because they’re always right.
Checkmate atheists!
If the Left perpetrated violence the way the Right says we do, we’d have executed most of their leaders by now.
I’m anti-violence, fwiw. It’s one of the reasons I believe we’re gonna lose in the longterm. We have fucking morality and ethics to contend with and they just lie and cheat openly and shamelessly.
Not true. Groups that are made up of altruistic individuals who work together are more successful than groups made up of individuals out for themselves. That’s part of the reason why democracy has prevailed over monarchy and despotism.
But it prevailed through … checks notes… violence.
Not just violence, ultra-violence. All rights are won through violence.
Abortions are political violence according to the right.
They would probably agree with you on that one.
And murdering abortion providers are actual murders
Uh, January 6th? I’m pretty sure the sum total of political violence on that day swamps everything else for years.
Everyrhing else was already still swamped by the Oklahoma City bombing.
The people listening to him don’t give two shits about the truth.
Even if heritage was correct and left-wing terrorism was more common, it wouldn’t change the fact that left-wing terrorism is often way more moral than right-wing terrorism.
Targetting ultra-wealthy, alt-right or similar organizations in assassinations/kidnappings/robberies is infinitely better than committing ethnically-driven murders and mass shootings.
It’s the same with petty theft being a fraction of what pay wage and time clock theft is yet widely more reported on.
I think the reason why they say “most political violence is left-wing violence” is because they want to convince their actual audience, the donor class, into supporting a fascist takeover by appealing to the “class warfare” concept that conceptually might frighten them more than a fascist USA.
Exactly along the same lines that you’re thinking, the targets of right-wing political violence tend to be protestors, LGBTQ+ people, people of color, low-level government employees…left-wing political violence if it were directed properly would be more targeted on things like the ultra-rich (aka Republicans’ real constituency).
Um, of course it’s wrong. The DHS (correctly) identified the right wing domestic terrorist threat wayyyyy back under Bush.
Naturally, the radical right wing freaked right out over this revelation.
This is the “bloodless revolution” psycho.
If sick burns and pointing out logical fallacies are political violence, he’s absolutely right, GOP gets brutalized daily.
Don’t forget about how Huckabee was denied her CHEESE PLATTER!
It was just like the Holocaust, I tell you.
They keep lying, and maybe we should make it come true if they want a dictatorship.
