Surely they have to use stuff like mathcad or equivalent to be an engineer? I’ve never really used it but it can’t be that far off just doing the calculations in python. I think there’s “sagemath” too availabe for linux - i’m sure that’s not as good as mathcad - but aimed at the same thing i think - and i’m sure it will interoperate with python libraries and R and stuff like that.

I know there are people who claim to be “good at excel” well i only used it for about 15-20 years but then i guess never got “good” at it - i just learned moreabout how bad it is. . Those that were genuinely good at it , as far as I think, did a lot of extra work to mitigate the limitations or create crutches for it. I just got pissed off by it, so i was quite desperate to stop using it as much as possible - it’s just only recently i’ve been allowed to use what i think are more appropriate tools- and i;m grateful for this small, but likely closing “window” f opportunity.

If they’re happy with it though, who am I to judge. But if I was doing gemoetry and engineering calculations and ultimately cad, I know i’d not want excel anywhere near my data or my calculation methods.

I wonder if age is really their issue, or if they just DGAF - again if that’s the case, good for them.

I on the other hand will probably be walking out when they force us on windows 11 however good or bad it is. /management has already fucked us with sharepoint and dynamics - so maybe i’m just as bad as them when it comes to new fangled shit like: clouds, data-lakes, fabrics and other MS shite. I just want our data on a proper fucking filesystem, that we own. And our data somewhere I can SQL it.

Unexpected but entirely welcome.

People do forget this all too often.

Cheaper stuff, use more , value less.

If you go too far you might actually dissuade some delta-cuck soyboy libtards from voting.

Best replacement for excel is: anything that doesn’t rape your data whilst pouring sugar in you gas tank. /s

TLDR - R, Python, mariaDB, for real data analysis stuff + minor role for whatever spreadsheet package.

For hobbies / analysis / data manipulation , storage , graphs and general stats fuckery here’s my advice; as someone who does this stuff - “badly I might add” - for a shitty public sector organisation that just can’t decide whether to bend over M$ barrel or Oracle’s barrel:

• use R (via R-studio if you need an “environment”) for more statsy stuff and easier graphs.

• Python for more general mathsy / programmy / web scrapy stuff - can do decent graphs with libraries like plotly and matplotlib stuff like that, scipy, numpy, and pandas are the other basic libraries for analysis and maths and large datasets. peopl like using ‘jupyter notebooks’ - I don’t get it personally - but 50 Phil Ochs fans cant be that wrong.

• Set up a mariadb or something if you need databasey stuff, I doubt you need to look at more hardcore stuff like postgresql for “hobbying” ; my personal (1 user) databases were built several years ago and mariadb is just fine for that. but some of the high vol transactional DB at work do use postgresql.

These are all good to learn in my experience, even if you think they’re harder than excel; ( are they tho’? array formlae!?). They’re sort of interoperable - subject to learning. They - naturally - have their open-source annoyances.: a million ways to do everything, and versioning issues. (Excel still has fucking vlookup() tho’ - talk abut legacy baggage - but no it’s not as bad as the open souce maelstroms).

You can still ouput data into a spreadsheet for viewing formatting and messing with stuff - but there are other ways.

Footnote: Yes I do still use excel, but normally mostly for final formatted report for customer who wants it. Having R/python directly write data into excel is so much better than letting excel open anything. Excel just can’t let an innocent SNOMED code go unmolested; you have to be on high alert if you let excel actually do anything.

Also spreadsheet for messy data cleansing - for looking at mess, to help refine the R/python cleansing script. I’d happily use libre/ods for any of these but I don’t fancy putting the request in to IT and . . . having to speak to IT about it.

“hoe today gone tomorrow.”

“Here is ‘what women want’ ass-hole” [bazoooka launches]

oh “online community” , sorry I think I’ve misunderstood this whole thing. I mean, I don’t even know what a GenZ are. Is that, like, doing the emails? https://youtu.be/jK-ZRxeJIiU?t=14

This is worse than ‘Thoughts and Prayers’.

A lot of elected officials - and their supporters - are accessories to the killing .

This is more like armed police waiting around outside a crime scene and actively preventing any attemp . . .

I’d call that a “webpage” though, one with an ill-fitting name. One person with a sandwich board and a megaphone yelling at a few passers by who at best smile, give a half-hearted thumbs up, then walk away.

To me, for it to live up to the name “community” that implies several people sharing stuff and a bit of reciprocity.

Of course that might take time, the first poster might be one of those proverbial people planting those trees that they’re never going benefit fron the shade of. Theres no harm in just creating it making a few posts and leaving them there- it might become active eventually. But it could be never and it will inevitably take a lot longer if the platform only has a million users a day total than if it had a billion.

You can probably do some sort of critical-mass / chain-reaction / markov chain type model to get a handle on the chances of a niche community becoming active in small population. Like that ‘Drake equation’ for trying to stop people wasting resources on SETI.

Having to listen to that Queen song, forever.

torturelini,

spookghetti,

penne arra-bat-a,

Pizza Morguerita

and you can serve Vampolicella or Mortepulciano

I do update freetube about 1 time a week these days (which is approaching the annoyance level of ads).

I used to have a lot more issues with it when I didn’t update so frequently - or maybe that was just a different stage in the arms race; I’m sure the reliability will vary, and eventually the developer of freetube will give up.

I mean, I wont be throwing out the bat or anything crazy like that.

i find using freetube keeps Ernie calm.

That might make it less dystopia-ish. Perhaps they can rent a mod-bot from amazon.

Seriously though the first rule does suggets bots are not allowed.

         LEELA
                     Should we really be celebrating? I mean, 
                     what if the second garbage ball returns 
                     to Earth like the first one did?

           FRY
                     Who cares? That won't be for hundreds 
                     of years.

           FARNSWORTH
                     Exactly! It's none of our concern.
       
           FRY
                     That's the 20th century spirit!

“Completely” different, interesting way to put it. Diagnosis must be trivial.

Probably in their mind, but not that I’d care to pay attention; so not obvious to me.

Human beings are diverse. defining a human as “divergent” is meaningless and so fucking dumb. Psychologists seem to be really bad at statistical analysis; and/or data collection that is representative of the species. But they’re maybe good at conning mugs to pay them to denigrate people who don’t fit their world view, or confound their predictions.

yes, this is what makes you suspect they are bot/trolls.

If they know they need a revolution, then actually revolt - with fucking petardes and guillotines; that type of shit. If they’re not ready to do that, they may as well kick trump in the balls first whilst they muster the wherewithal.

"Voting thrd party because voting is broken?! " wtf?

no bombing no smoking no petting

It’s a handy way to know what to avoid.

But why don’t pubs seem to know that? Most pubs these days hav become lemon parties.

I totally made that up by the way so don’t rely on it at all with actual Germans.

Don’t forget their neighbour with numbers like “quatre-vingt-dix-sept” though, I think theres a reason for so many renowned French mathematicians.