• Rapidcreek@lemmy.worldOP
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    4 months ago

    Just numbers. You don’t like numbers? Empirical evidence not your cup of tea? Very well then, be happy with your feelings.

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      4 months ago

      YouTune videos are not empirical evidence. You can quite literally say whatever you want and show whatever you want on there with no peer review.

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      “Just numbers” in the same way Ben Shapiro saying “Facts don’t care about your feelings” has any validity - ie in the abstract, but not in context. But hey, if you’re convinced because “One gumball small, many gumballs LARGE”, God forbid I be the one to break you of your happy, simplified world.

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            So, you are going to pigeon hole data because you have no data to refute it. Plus,one wonders if you understand the data in the first place.

            Your link has to do with the US economy, which is fine but only true as of right now.

            However, the link I provided isn’t about that. It makes two points.

            1. If the goal of immigration is to affect world poverty it will fail due to the scope of the problem.

            2. In order to fight world poverty, attack it where it’s at.

            Both of these data sets are Not contradictory

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              Your link has to do with the US economy, which is fine but only true as of right now.

              However, the link I provided isn’t about that.

              Oh, it’s NOT about America despite the speaker discussing American immigration and American immigration limits, and EXPLICITLY MENTIONS economic and infrastructure pressure as for a reason why America absolutely could not take in 2 million people per year. Yes. That’s definitely a believable take from someone who watched the video.

              Are you even trying?

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                There are economic implications of absorbing greater populations. Why wouldyouthink there are not? Schools, hospitals, roads, etc. all must be increased. And as the vid points out, you still don’t have an effect on world poverty by doubling immigration

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              The goal of immigration is to have people move to a better place then they were in. It has nothing to do with poverty other than a large amount of people emigrate because of poverty. They come to America because of the opportunity to not be in poverty anymore.

              Immigration and poverty are two separate issues that you are trying to smash into one issue, in order to make one seem like it’s bad or worse than it is.

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                It would be more beneficial for them to change where they are at. We have a way to do this through foreign aid. For instance, a medical doctor can immigrate to the US, but their home country needs doctors too. Yet, we wait until there is desperate need and then step in.

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                  This only works when aid is allowed to be delivered. Just look at what isreal is doing to Palestinians. They are denying international aid and killing international aid workers. And in many cases people immigrate to the US to learn how to be a doctor, for example, then go back to their home country to practice and teach there. Not all immigration is permanent too.