Young, female, minority, well known, and at least somewhat sane compared to the rest of the crazies in the field. And I’m not saying I agree with her policies, but if the election were to be held today, I think Haley would beat Biden easily. Again, this is not an opinion on either candidate or their policies; given the current political climate and especially considering Biden’s continued support for Israel and the genocide they’re conducting, I think Haley would be able to pick up at least some of the disenfranchised Biden voters and win by a pretty good margin.
Haley literally sharpied the words “finish them” on materiel being sent to Israel. Anyone swearing off Biden over his Israel policy is sure as shit not gonna support Haley. Or who knows, maybe they would, I think a third of them are cosplaying, another third accelerationists, and the remaining third severely misguided idealists.
Haley literally sharpied the words “finish them” on materiel being sent to Israel.
Go back over the past couple of months. Take a look at how many people in this sub alone have advocated voting for Trump over Biden because of Israel? How many people in states like Minnesota are threatening to do the same thing? For reasons that I still completely fail to understand, the number of people who claim to be willing to vote for Trump (or at least stay home, acknowledging that it would indirectly help him get to office anyway) is above zero. And even if 90% of them have absolutely no intention of following through and just want to “send a message”, the 10% that do may very well be enough in some of these swing states where Biden won by only ~10k votes, give or take.
Even with Haley’s sharpie (What is it about Republicans that makes them think just taking a sharpie to something actually changes anything?), she’s still at worst a “more sane” version of Trump, which may be enough to make some people who would have otherwise held their noses and vote for Biden vote for Haley instead.
Fair points all around, except I can’t say the “acknowledging it” part has matched my experience. As I’ve seen it, they seem to be more content to shove their heads in the sand and pretend FPTP isn’t real and that the system isn’t set up to keep anyone without a [D] or [R] nomination from being electorally viable. Like, I tend to be very laissez-faire with political discussions if people aren’t using hate speech or blatantly acting in bad faith, but that crowd always has me teetering on the edge of reporting their comments for spreading misinformation.
There aren’t enough of them in the swing states that would matter.
Most of them are going to vote for whoever has the ® after the name. Only a select portion of them are going to be so far down the MAGA hole that they’d write in Trump instead. Haley would pick up the majority of ® votes, along with (IMO) enough of the independents to nullify the MAGA morons and get her over the finish line.
I wonder who would replace him?
Could be one reason we haven’t seen a running mate yet. That would give them a backup plan if they were already rallied behind somebody else.
Though I suppose equally well, no one had wanted to be committed to partnering with him before they saw how these trials played out.
Haley.
Young, female, minority, well known, and at least somewhat sane compared to the rest of the crazies in the field. And I’m not saying I agree with her policies, but if the election were to be held today, I think Haley would beat Biden easily. Again, this is not an opinion on either candidate or their policies; given the current political climate and especially considering Biden’s continued support for Israel and the genocide they’re conducting, I think Haley would be able to pick up at least some of the disenfranchised Biden voters and win by a pretty good margin.
Haley literally sharpied the words “finish them” on materiel being sent to Israel. Anyone swearing off Biden over his Israel policy is sure as shit not gonna support Haley. Or who knows, maybe they would, I think a third of them are cosplaying, another third accelerationists, and the remaining third severely misguided idealists.
Go back over the past couple of months. Take a look at how many people in this sub alone have advocated voting for Trump over Biden because of Israel? How many people in states like Minnesota are threatening to do the same thing? For reasons that I still completely fail to understand, the number of people who claim to be willing to vote for Trump (or at least stay home, acknowledging that it would indirectly help him get to office anyway) is above zero. And even if 90% of them have absolutely no intention of following through and just want to “send a message”, the 10% that do may very well be enough in some of these swing states where Biden won by only ~10k votes, give or take.
Even with Haley’s sharpie (What is it about Republicans that makes them think just taking a sharpie to something actually changes anything?), she’s still at worst a “more sane” version of Trump, which may be enough to make some people who would have otherwise held their noses and vote for Biden vote for Haley instead.
Fair points all around, except I can’t say the “acknowledging it” part has matched my experience. As I’ve seen it, they seem to be more content to shove their heads in the sand and pretend FPTP isn’t real and that the system isn’t set up to keep anyone without a [D] or [R] nomination from being electorally viable. Like, I tend to be very laissez-faire with political discussions if people aren’t using hate speech or blatantly acting in bad faith, but that crowd always has me teetering on the edge of reporting their comments for spreading misinformation.
Predicable Republican Fuckery 2024!
She’s terrible, but far more sane than Trump. I hope it works.
Republicans largely applauded her hateful act.
Are you taking into account the write-in votes for Trump from people who think tuh meedya is lying to them about him being dead?
There aren’t enough of them in the swing states that would matter.
Most of them are going to vote for whoever has the ® after the name. Only a select portion of them are going to be so far down the MAGA hole that they’d write in Trump instead. Haley would pick up the majority of ® votes, along with (IMO) enough of the independents to nullify the MAGA morons and get her over the finish line.