Hey guys,

I would like to setup some backups.

I have a raspberry at home and 2 VPS’s. I’m trying to setup borgmatic on my raspberry to back it up and the 2 VPS’s but I’m not sure this can be done.

Right now I’m looking to back up the raspberry and use rclone to mount one of the VPS and back it up. The issue is with the second VPS, it has MariaDB running and I can’t see how to back it up remotely (the port is not exposed publicly). I don’t find anything about tunneling in borgmatic. Am I forced to install borgmatic on the VPS to back it up? If I do this, how can I merge the back up with the other ones?

Actually should I do this or have 3 separate borg repositories?

Lastly, my raspberry uses rclone to push to S3 and I don’t want the keys to be accessible on the VPS’s, that’s why I’m trying to have borgmatic only on my raspberry.

Thanks for your help!

  • fuser@quex.ccEnglish
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    1 year ago

    for the database, consider a script that does a “mysqldump” of the entire database that you schedule to run on the system daily/weekly. Also consider using gpg to encrypt the plain text file and delete the original in the same script. This is so you don’t leave a copy of the data unencrypted anywhere outside the database. You can then initiate either a copy of the encrypted file to a local folder that you’re backing up, or if you’ve set this up to back up directly on the remote that’s fine too - bringing it local gives you a staged copy outside the archive and not on the original host in case you need an immediately available backup of your database.

    With respect to the 3 separate repos, I would say keep them separate unless you have a large amount of duplicated data. Borg does not deduplicate over different repos as far as I’m aware. The downside of using a single repo is that the repo is locked during backups and if you’re running different scripts from each host, the lock files borg creates can become stale if the script doesn’t complete and one day (probably the day you’re trying to restore) you’ll find that borg hasn’t been backing your stuff up because a lock file is holding the backup archive open due to a failed backup that terminated due to an untimely reboot months ago. I don’t recall now why this occurs and doesn’t self-correct but do remember concluding that if deduplication isn’t a major factor, it’s easier and safer to keep the borg repos separate by host. Deduplication is the only reason to combine them as far as I can tell.

    When it comes to backup scripts, try to keep everything foolproof and use checks where you can to make sure the script is seeing the expected data, completes successfully and so on. Setting up automatic backups isn’t a trivial task, although maybe tools like rclone and borgmatic simplify it - I haven’t used those, just borg command line and scp/gpg in shell scripts. Have fun!

    • Kwa@derpzilla.netOPEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      Thanks for the clarification about the repositories!

      If I understood correctly, I should run a cron on the VPN that dumps the DB and encrypts it. Then borg only has to get the dump and archives it.

      Also what is the reason not to use the mariadb tool provided by borg? It looked interesting because of the data stream.

      • Aloha_Alaska@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        Also what is the reason not to use the mariadb tool provided by borg?

        I don’t know what tool you mean and can’t find any references online. I do see that Borgmatic allows hooks to run a program like mysqldump before a backup run, but it’s neither part of Borg itself nor has anything to do with streaming data, so I’m still confused about what tool you’ve found.

        The advice you’ve gotten is good and it’s what I do. A cron job runs mysqldump, a different cron job runs borg, and I do error checking on both of those as well as occasional test restores.

      • fuser@quex.ccEnglish
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        1 year ago

        Yes you understand the suggested approach. I don’t know about the mariadb tool and if it looks good, by all means use it, but I would offer that the fastest, simplest way to restore a reasonably small database that I can think of is with a sql dump. Any additional complexity just seems like it’s adding potential failure points. You don’t want to be messing around with borg or any other tools to replay transactions when all you want to do is get your database rebuilt. Also, if you have an encrypted local copy of the dump, then restoring from borg is the last resort, because most of the time you’ll just need the latest backup. I would bring the data local and back it up there if feasible. Then you only need a remote connection to grab the encrypted file and you’ll always have a recent local copy if your server goes kaput. Borg will back it up incrementally.