• bitchkat@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Its very few cars that are not FSD capable, mostly older S and X. There are some older model 3’s (pre spring 2019) with hardware version 2 that I think can’t run modern FSD.

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      8 months ago

      All the Model 3s with v2 were offered a free upgrade, I suppose there could be some people that never bothered and then sold their car, but if it’s in Tesla’s resale inventory I would expect them to have done the upgrade.

      My 2018 Model 3 got the upgrade and I use FSD daily, though it still has the older revision of the display (just slightly less responsive in web browsing and games).

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        7 months ago

        You only got the V2 to V3 upgrade if you bought FSD. I don’t think they blanket upgraded everyone with V2 or V2.5 hardware.

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          7 months ago

          Ah, that makes sense. Looking at the FAQ page, it appears anyone who pays for the non subscription FSD gets the upgrade free, subscribers have to pay $1,000 for installation.

          Same page says there is a camera upgrade available for some s/x/early 3s also restricted to purchasers of FSD.

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            7 months ago

            And that is fair. Otherwise someone could subscribe to FSD, get their hardware upgrade and then cancel. Early S and maybe X used a completely different system for Autopilot developed by MobileEye. Tesla hates paying licenses so they drop Mobile Eye and started developing their in house AP/FSD. The MobileEye patents are why it took for ever to get a system that can read speed limit signs. But Mobile Eye was never released on Model 3 so there must have been some different cameras in use. Hardware 4 has more cameras and higher def but I haven’t heard that they are upgrading hardware 3 cars. The scale of that is way larger than it was back in 2019.

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        7 months ago

        Its hard for them to sell you FSD at $12k (or $199/mo) if the hardware can’t support it.