The Supreme Court on Tuesday passed up a chance to intervene in the debate over bathrooms for transgender students, rejecting an appeal from an Indiana public school district.

Federal appeals courts are divided over whether school policies enforcing restrictions on which bathrooms transgender students can use violate federal law or the Constitution.

In the case the court rejected without comment, the Chicago-based 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals upheld an order granting transgender boys access to the boys’ bathroom. The appeal came from the Metropolitan School District of Martinsville, about 30 miles (48 kilometers) southwest of Indianapolis.

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    Why would anyone care where people go the bathroom? Where do you think transsexuals have been going all these years? What nonsense.

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      Women don’t like going to the bathroom with men.

      They tolerate it on campgrounds, but not places of business that they frequent often.

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        I’m a woman and I don’t care. I’ve been in the bathroom with men before and even had a nice conversation with them. Do I not exist? Who gave you the rights to speak on behalf of all women everywhere?

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        You keep saying this, but you don’t speak for all women. I am a woman who does not care one flying fuck if the other ladies in the restroom were born with a penis, a vagina, or some variation thereof. I care much more about whether they flush & wipe the seat.

        I’m certain you’re not conflating trans with violent, right?? Or sticking up for people who do?

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          Absolutely, but the barrier is not coming from men who don’t want to share restrooms with women.

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            No, actually, as transfem the only time anyone ever confronted me about the bathroom I used was a man before I switched. Evidently I was freaking guys out at the urinals 😅

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          I think it’s more of a safety concern mixed with sexism.

          I’ve come across women that flat-out say they are more afraid of men on average and try to avoid them if possible.

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            One in four women face sexual violence. I get it.

            It sure would be nice if they’d stop to consider how women like me would feel to be forced to be surrounded by men in the men’s restroom.

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      I’m 100% a supporter of trans right to use the bathroom of their gender.

      There is a reason that bathrooms are separated by gender.

      So if you can’t understand why people who don’t believe trans people exist are upset that people are using the wrong restroom, you’re just like the people who can’t understand that trans people exist: it’s a lack of being able to see beyond your own self and understand the position of others. While I strongly disagree with them, their position is not very complicated and easy to understand.

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        I dont think there’s any need to give the benefit of the doubt to these people anymore. You might argue they believe LGBTQ people shouldn’t exist, and I might believe you, but I tend to think their main motivation is just stirring up anger and resentment against the “other side”.

        If people were concerned about privacy or safety, the us would have single user bathrooms or at least stalls that didn’t have 1in gaps around the doors (my 90s high school didn’t have stall doors at all, and in some bathrooms didn’t even have stalls, just a toilet next to the sink in the locker room). The same people aren’t upset about those things, because they don’t actually care about any of this.

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      Yeah, fuck your genitals, show me how big your dookies are! Who’s gonna help me start a petition to build a national weekly poopie scoreboard? USA! USA! USA! USA!

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      Hey! I appreciate your support, trans rights are human rights!

      In the future, could you please use transgender instead of transexual? The latter is a really dated term and ties a gender and societal issue to sexuality. While they may be closely associated, they’re not the same thing and any little bit helps break that association.

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          You can also edit your comments, it would be preferred if you would change it so that you aren’t using what many of us consider a slur.

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            Would it not be better to leave it as is to teach others? Censoring serves no purpose here and it would prevent people from learning

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              You can edit in a cross out with two tildas ~ surrounding the word and put the correct word next to it if that’s your style. But it’s still somewhat akin to using the n word for some of us.

              It’s not our word for how we describe ourselves/ what we transition for, when we transition, and it can have nothing to do with sex, mostly, we can be any sexuality.

              That old language centers everything on the fact that people see us as sexual fetishes and not people. Transition is about gender, of which sex sometimes is not even a part, asexuality exists too. Thus the word transgender

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                Not disagreeing about the use of the word, just erasing a teaching moment. Fair enough regarding the editing choice though

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                  And yet it’s still the most upvoted comment, keeping a slur up that hurts many trans people, but sure the teaching moment is more important than being inaccurate and insulting, but keep patting yourself on the back.

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      They have a whole fantasy conspiracy they’ve cooked up where we’re sneaking in to women’s restrooms to do human trafficking and dark web revenge porn and shit.

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    upheld an order granting transgender boys access to the boys’ bathroom.

    Why is it only focusing on 1 gender?

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      Probably because the lawsuit was filed on behalf of a transgender boy.

      The case originally required John R. Wooden Middle School in Martinsville to allow a seventh-grader identified only as A.C. to have access to the restroom while litigation continued.

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      Ultimately, what it boils down to is that they want to force trans people to de-transition, go back into the closet, and hopefully kill themselves. The pain and aggravation caused by these stupid bathroom laws is quite literally the point.

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        That’s a slippery slope.

        Most of the women I see who have an opinion on this are afraid of men sharing their bathrooms. They have a legitimate fear of men that borders on and often crosses over into sexism.

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          Trans women aren’t men, and every time I see someone insist that their anecdotal reports of women terrified that the bathroom stall next to them might contain a trans woman, they invariably fail to cough up any actual statistics on it. Maybe you’ll be different.

          In any event, this is someone born with a vagina:

          Do you think that person should use the women’s restroom?

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        It’s like killing yourself because in physics they teach v=s/t instead of v=ds/dt. Cruelty. Clearly, v=s/t doesn’t work.

        I really don’t get it. If you have a penis you would like to use a urinal. If you don’t you wouldn’t.

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          Stand to pee devices exist and are pretty common. Some people have prosthetic set-ups. Some folks have even had bottom surgery and can stand. Not to hard to use a urinal, although I’ve never used a men’s bathroom that didn’t have a stall in it.

          The cruelty is that I am a man. I have about two inches of beard and a mat of chest hair that peeks through a t-shirt. I’m not out at work, I’m not out at restaurants, I’m not out really in any setting that doesn’t require me being nekkid. Requiring me to use the women’s bathroom because I don’t have a penis would require me to cause a massive scene - am I supposed to drop my pants to prove I’m in the “correct” restroom? My drivers license says male on it, do I need to carry around my birth certificate to use the bathroom?

          Your physics example is extremely poorly formed. I’ve taught physics for years and have no idea what you’re trying to convey.

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            How is it possible that you have beard without men genitals?

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              I’ve been taking testosterone injections for roughly ten years. They are prescribed to me, I inject myself in the thigh once a week. I experienced male puberty. My voice cracked and dropped. I slowly developed stubble that developed into a terrible patchy beard, and with time the ability to grow a fairly decent one.

              It’s entirely possible to have a beard without injections or testicles - conditions like PCOS can cause fluctuations in hormone levels. Some women are just naturally hairy, human bodies are complicated 🤷‍♂️