• Fushuan [he/him]@lemm.ee
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    IIRC the reason they don’t do e2e encryption is because you can access the information from the desktop without having access to the phone, you cannot do that with whatsapp, every desktop connection must pass through the phone, and that’s mighty annoying.

    Yeah, you need to trust them that they will save the data in their servers in a secure way, but they have not betrayed the users’ trust since they are running, and several people trust them.

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        Well, the fact that telegram normal/group chats are not encrypted is not true either. I think I know how is signal doing it, and I wish telegram upgraded it’s services, but for now it’s without any kind of doubt the most seamless chat service I have ever used, with the integrations, stickers and all that. I’ll give signal a try though, GL moving all the friend group chats though.

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          > Well, the fact that telegram normal/group chats are not encrypted is not true either.

          It’s not encrypted in any way that actually matters.

          > it’s without any kind of doubt the most seamless chat service I have ever used, with the integrations, stickers and all that.

          Yeah stickers are not high up on my list of priorities.

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            Well, for starters, Signal doesn’t have a web version so I cannot use it in managed pcs, bummer. In any case, I’ll check it out but I highl doubt that the user experience will be even close.

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                Lmao it’s not. It doesn’t have nearly the same stickers, no animated stickers, no reactions, no instant video messages.

                Encryption is not part of the user experience, that’s an underlying security messure that he user doesn’t feel. It’s important but it’s not part of the user experience.

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                  It does have reactions and video messages. Please learn what you’re talking about.

                  It does have a large library of stickers. I’m sure not as large a library as Telegram, but again, who gives a shit?

                  > that’s an underlying security messure that he user doesn’t feel.

                  It’s a basic necessity in this day and age.

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                    > It’s a basic necessity in this day and age.

                    No, it’s not. It’s important, but it’s not a basic necessity like water and food. That sounded so entitled, damn.

                    Anyway, you give utmost importance to the features signal offers, I don’t really and…

                    > but again, who gives a shit?

                    Well, plenty of fucking users, obviously. Wdym who gives a shit? You are literally talking to me complaining about it, I clearly do and I’m not alone in this or else a lot more users would have migrated.

                    Anyway, You like yours and as stated, I’ll check it out. Have a nice day.