• oDDmON@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    How the fuck did we wind up here, where two completely past-their-expiration-date candidates are supposedly symbols of hope for the nation?

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        9 months ago

        I’d rather both party apparatuses pull their heads out of their collective asses, worry less about the next election/poll #s/donors/warchests/etc., start paying attention to what we fucking need as a nation and relearn the goddamned art of compromise. /endvent

        But I know that’s got an ice cube’s chance in hell.

        Oh. No. Would not pin hope on another loon either.

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          9 months ago

          Not worrying about elections is how you lose the ability to actually implement any of those things we need because you don’t have any political power.

          To use a gratuitous MLK quote:

          Power without love is reckless and abusive, and love without power is sentimental and anemic. Power at its best is love implementing the demands of justice, and justice at its best is power correcting everything that stands against love

          All the good intentions in the world are meaningless if you don’t actually have any power needed to implement those good intentions. There’s a balance to be struck somewhere.

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      9 months ago

      This. As a non-American it’s really weirding me out. They both seem way too old and doddery. Most people that age are retired.

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        9 months ago

        Remember that in America rich old people like a good 25 years longer than the average person. The elder Bush died at 94 and Jimmy Carter is still going at 99. Meanwhile my blue collar dad and grandpa died at 72 and 68 respectively. The wonders of a for-profit medical system.

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          9 months ago

          @ChonkyOwlbear I myself have relations who lived to over 100.

          That doesn’t really change the fact that by their late 70s, they were too old to work long hours in demanding jobs. They were elderly retired people for like 30 years.

          I don’t think that dying in office is the only thing the US should be worried about here. I’ve seen footage of Biden and Trump, they are old and doddery. I wouldn’t put them in charge of anything bigger than a gift shop.