Apple is bringing sideloading and alternate app stores to the iPhone
www.theverge.com
Ahead of the DMA coming into force in March.

They’re not actually relinquishing any control. They’re just allowing subsidiary “app stores” to take a tiny cut while Apple still controls everything.

I’ve been an Apple fanboy for years, but less so these days. I can’t imagine that the EU won’t fine them for this, although it’s hard to imagine any fine that would make an impression on a $3 trillion company.

  • Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    6527·
    9 months ago

    Apple know it’s fanbase will scream at the EU instead of them. I mean, they ate the bullshit apple claim that allowing sideloading will auto-magically give them viruses. I know Apple caters to the none-techy people but this is plain stupid.

      • Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        489·
        9 months ago

        I geuss the comments I read on reddit, hacker news and even lemmy were all fragments of my imagination. It pissed me off that people were literally defending companies fucking them but eh, they kinda deserve what’s happening to them at this point.

          • Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            83·
            9 months ago

            I kid you not, I vaguely remember that the comment about the phone becoming less safe due to sideloading was from lemmy. I think it was downvoted to hell but still. Lemmy isn’t all techy people and even then some people consider the walled garden as a feature.

            I know all companies are full of bullshit, and I reckon that Apple makes both great software and hardware, but I hate with a passion how they try to make the most anti-consumer shit ever and then claim it’s for their users/environmental benefits. I lose faith in humanity a little bit more each time I read someone comment stating that the EU forcing apple to open imessage would make it less secure or that their forced passage to USB-C would only hurt the users, or that Apple not including the faster charger was okey because they already had a charger at home ( so as Apple claimed, better for the environment ), but then they go and buy it separately ( because it’s better and faster ) and it comes in a box full of plastic.

      • DJDarren@thelemmy.clubEnglish
        148·
        9 months ago

        I love my MacBook, my iPad is a lovely bit of tech, my iPhone is perfect for my needs, and my Apple TV shits all over any and all “smart” TV setups I’ve used.

        Apple as a company though, are absolute shit. But they really do make good stuff.

        • Optional@lemmy.worldEnglish
          610·
          9 months ago

          Mmmmpretty sure you’re saying a shit company makes good stuff? I mean, that seems unlikely.

          • DJDarren@thelemmy.clubEnglish
            135·
            9 months ago

            And yet, here we are.

            I have a 15" MacBook Air that’s easily the most beautiful, most powerful computer I’ve ever owned, running an operating system that works incredibly well for me, an OS that syncs damn near perfectly with my phone and iPad. I have a 2011 MacBook that’s running the last version of macOS even though it officially lost support a fair few years ago. It’s still absolutely solid for a 13 year old laptop.

            They make incredible stuff.

            But they have very, very shitty consumer practices.

            • ElJefe@lemm.eeEnglish
              53·
              9 months ago

              Totally agree.

              As a side note, do you have any tips on updating an old MacBook to newer os? I also have a 2011 MacBook, and I’ve been looking at ways to upgrade the os. So far I’ve found Opencore as maybe the only viable way. Any tips would be greatly appreciated!

              • DJDarren@thelemmy.clubEnglish
                41·
                9 months ago

                Yeah, Opencore is the gold standard for patching new macOS onto unsupported hardware. In fact, I’m not sure there are really any other ways now.

                I can’t speak for how Sonoma runs on a 2011 MacBook, but I have Ventura on mine and it runs just fine. It’s not going to set the world alight with its benchmarks, but it’s still a perfectly usable laptop. Does yours have an SSD and maxed out RAM? Because those two will help enormously.

                • ElJefe@lemm.eeEnglish
                  2·
                  9 months ago

                  It does. I upgraded from hard drive to SSD, and maxed out the RAM up to 4 gb per slot several years ago.

                  I’m not super techy, but I’ll figure it out. My main hangup right now is not having a backup drive. I suppose I should start there lol. Thanks so much!

                  • DJDarren@thelemmy.clubEnglish
                    2·
                    9 months ago

                    Pretty sure that machine can take 16gb, to make it extra useful.

                    Opencore is surprisingly easy to setup. The instructions aren’t massively clear, but all you’ll really need is a 16gb+ memory stick and a bit of patience. Install Opencore to the Mac’s SSD, then download whichever OS you want using the option in Opencore, which will then automatically make the installer.

              • ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.worldEnglish
                42·
                9 months ago

                I’m not the guy you’re talking with, but I have successfully installed multiple flavors of Linux on a 2010 MacBook recently, and am now running Zorin on it. Linux will run on unbelievably tiny resources compared to Windows. I wrote a post about it a few months ago asking the Linux community here for suggestions if you’re interested.

      • Octopus1348@lemy.lolEnglish
        5·
        9 months ago

        There are a lot of people saying that sideloading is bad actually on Twitter. You know, the place where you can get brain damage.

    • AA5B@lemmy.worldEnglish
      79·
      9 months ago

      Apple caters to the none-techy

      Ok, I’ll bite……

      • I chose to buy into the walled garden for my phone. I like the usability, consistency, privacy reliability, and I know the stats on safe downloads for the App Store vs Google Play. I especially would not touch whatever privacy invading , advertising, crashing dreck that would be an Epic Store
      • At work I develop on a Mac, because my company supports that best for engineering. I have no idea if there is an App Store or how to get to it - I’ll just use Brew, or download open source and IT can do whatever it does
      • my work products are deployed on Linux or various AWS
      • my home laptop is Windows because of games and TurboTax
      • my home lab are Raspberry Pi’s running Linux, but I’m looking at a Linux VM server

      I’ll match techy-credentials with anyone.

      Y’all should stop complaining and chose the right tool for the right job, depending on your needs. It’s good to have choices in approach and the one you chose is on you

      • Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        131·
        9 months ago

        In my second comment I mentioned that even some techy people considered the walled garden as a feature and lo and behold.

        I’ll match techy-credentials with anyone.

        None-techy people don’t need to sideload to install their own app, use an alternative store or root their phone, but Techy users would. IPhone don’t allow any of those and the fact that some IT guys use the product for its walled garden features doesn’t make it any more suitable for people who actually wants to have control over their phones.

        The only thing differentiating Macs from Linux are proprietary softwares.

        I chose to buy into the walled garden for my phone. I like the usability, consistency, privacy reliability, and I know the stats on safe downloads for the App Store vs Google Play. I especially would not touch whatever privacy invading , advertising, crashing dreck that would be an Epic Store

        Have you ever heard of f-droid ? free and open source software made by people for people. More than half my apps are from this app store and the other half are sideloaded. Tho I’d recommend you to use one of these alternative f-droid front-ends : Neo-store, Droid-fly.

        Y’all should stop complaining and chose the right tool for the right job, depending on your needs. It’s good to have choices in approach and the one you chose is on you

        Absolutely, I agree a 100%.

      • thereisalamp@reddthat.comEnglish
        81·
        9 months ago

        Just because you opted in, doesn’t make their statement untrue.

        The simplicity of use in the walled garden, caters to people who aren’t techy. It’s a huge reason for their success.

        But just like “nontechy” people like my husband can use an android, “techy” people can opt into a system that caters to the opposite.