• Vodulas [they/them]@beehaw.org
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    11 months ago

    The thing is, no context would have made it OK. You may have just been quoting someone, but you still used the word in the quote. Quotes are not some uneditable thing, so it was your choice to leave it in. Zero tolerance for hate means repeating the hateful thing is also not tolerated, and that, IMO, is a good thing and the perfect use of an auto-mod.

    The other examples are a bit nebulous, and I have no doubt that communities on reddit have esoteric moderation guidelines, but this particular example seems pretty cut and dry.

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      11 months ago

      Quotes are not uneditable… but neither are comments.

      Wouldn’t be the first time when the parent gets edited to make a reply look like nonsense, so I got used to quoting as a countermeasure. Then they unlocked comment editing even in 10 year old “archived” posts 🤦 (BTW, the same applies to Lemmy: should I quote you? will you edit what you said?.. tomorrow, or in 10 years?.. maybe I’ll risk it, this time)

      “Zero tolerance” becomes a problem when the system requires you to quote, but then some months or years later decides to change the rules and applies them retroactively. I still wouldn’t mind if they just flagged, hid, or removed the comment, it’s the “go on a treasure hunt to find out why you got banned” that I find insulting (kind of like the “wrong login”… /jk, you got banned. Wonder if it’s been fixed in Lemmy already, I know of some sites that haven’t for the last 15 years).

      • Vodulas [they/them]@beehaw.org
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        11 months ago

        Quotes are not uneditable… but neither are comments.

        You kinda get into an ouroborus of who has fewer edits, and honestly I don’t know how to solve for that, but I do know that if you had substituted “n-word” for the slur it would look exactly the same if the OP edited the comment after the fact. Quoting the slur doesn’t mitigate that.

        “Zero tolerance” becomes a problem when the system requires you to quote, but then some months or years later decides to change the rules and applies them retroactively. I

        Any policy becomes a problem at that point. It becomes less of a policy and more of a guideline