• LesserAbe@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      Yeah, tuta isn’t amazing, but definitely better than tutanota just for length and verbally giving someone else the address.

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    I really wanna support these folks but I’m also curious about the recent headlines with Cameron Ortis (Canada’s own selfish version of Snowden who deserves a damn Peace Prize for reals) referencing these.

    Also, I think people need to learn there is nothing “private” about email beyond not scanning which is like paying for a not-service (like don’t fuck me over). Hell, its hard enough to work up the courage and stamina to vanishing-messages-set someone adversarial who desperately needs you to make and ebforce that decision upon them as a baseline for engaging with them at all.

    I will pay $1/month for email company to not be an asshole but that’s the extent of my patience with the notion and I have zero illusions about what is likely still happening on some level.

    Edit: Snowden deserves reward, not Ortis.

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        Can you share more about why you think Proton’s approach is better than Tuta?

        From a casual read through they both appear to use end to end encryption when users are on the same service. (Proton emailing Proton or Tuta emailing Tuta) and both offer the option to password encrypt an email so you can message someone on other services as long as you can share that password with them IRL somehow.

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        Proton lost me when I found out you can’t receive notifications from their app on a de-googled phone. Their app requires Google services for notifications. Since then I’ve moved to Tuta and am very happy with the service and notifications work. I mean how hard is it to set up a new email check every half hour in the app. What’s the point of private email when you have to run it on a spyware (Google) infested phone.

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      I wasn’t familiar with the headlines you’re referring to so took a look, here is one story from the CBC. And here is Tuta’s post responding to the allegation.

      Besides knowing the name I was not super familiar with Tuta, but it appears their source code is publicly available for review for any backdoor (and that Cameron Ortis doesn’t seem trustworthy or even especially knowledgeable).

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        That’s my instinct, but its good free publicity I think. The worst thing is not being talked about, maybe there’s some truth to that

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    Yeah fuck these people you can’t even open a free account anymore what a joke

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      10 months ago

      At the bottom of the paid features, there’s still a free option. Don’t go spreading misinformation now…

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        Have you tried it? I did last week. Your account is automatically locked for 72 hours for “manual review”.

        After that it still doesn’t work you need to send an approval request explaining why do you want the free email address.

        I repeat, fuck these people.

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          Considering it has been my main email account for just under three years now, no, not one bit. (@tuta.io)

          I have never once had an issue with them. I made a mistake and they helped me fix it within 48 hours. So there’s clearly something you’re omitting that is preventing you from keeping an account open with them.

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            Ah yes that’s the only possible reason right? Or maybe…idk might sound crazy but maybe They changed their policies for new accounts??

            How about thinking before calling somebody a liar?

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              Didn’t call you a liar. I said don’t spread misinformation. There is still a free teir, whether you are able to use it or not is another story.

              And yes, that actually does sound crazy. Especially like I said, I’ve been using them for several years and they’ve always have been responsive to me.

              Plus your clear aggression is telling me that you’re clearly expecting me to rise to your anger, fuel it, and spin it back. Makes it harder to believe someone when they can’t have an informed discussion without blowing up and raging hard at them when I am not trying to get a rise out of you.

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      To tuta users, I guess.

      I wouldn’t use it, they lost my trust when they suddenly started deleting free accounts a bit inactive, requiring a paid account to restore them.