Given Nothing and Sunbird’s small marketshare, I assumed Apple was probably going to let Sunbird slide. Now I hope they bring the hammer down.
E2EE is one of the main points of iMessage. Security minded iMessage users are not going to feel comfortable if a Sunbird user is on the other end.
Sunbird / Nothing needed to play this very carefully. Users are giving them their iCloud credentials and are technically giving them the ability to view encrypted comms, documents, photos, password wallets, health records, etc.
Yeah, to be fair, the current state of encryption has been one of the major grievances with RCS.
The fact that Apple is pushing for a more universal E2E standard, and having Google onboard for it, is a good thing for everyone.
Also, those unencrypted messages will be called on their clients. Messages on Android gets the no lock icon, and Messages in Apple’s ecosystem gets green bubbles.
This Sunbird thing is some bullshit because people think it’s encrypted, and it isn’t. Unencrypted comms are getting blue bubbled.
Given Nothing and Sunbird’s small marketshare, I assumed Apple was probably going to let Sunbird slide. Now I hope they bring the hammer down.
E2EE is one of the main points of iMessage. Security minded iMessage users are not going to feel comfortable if a Sunbird user is on the other end.
Sunbird / Nothing needed to play this very carefully. Users are giving them their iCloud credentials and are technically giving them the ability to view encrypted comms, documents, photos, password wallets, health records, etc.
Shit like this is unacceptable.
You could say the same about RCS. Apple’s implementation of RCS next year will not have e2ee, at least not at first.
Can’t wait to lose my RCS e2ee thanks to Apple.
Yeah, to be fair, the current state of encryption has been one of the major grievances with RCS.
The fact that Apple is pushing for a more universal E2E standard, and having Google onboard for it, is a good thing for everyone.
Also, those unencrypted messages will be called on their clients. Messages on Android gets the no lock icon, and Messages in Apple’s ecosystem gets green bubbles.
This Sunbird thing is some bullshit because people think it’s encrypted, and it isn’t. Unencrypted comms are getting blue bubbled.
Google only allows E2EE between its own app, though, because there is no E2EE in RCS yet.
You can’t send a message from Googles RCS supporting app to another RCS app or platform and utilize E2EE.
What Apple’s asking for is to have a standard encryption for RCS rather than a 3rd party implementation.