• Asafum@feddit.nl
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      I’m curious what the downvotes are for… Are they saying there’s no helping them or even the thought of helping them is bad?

      Of literally all the kinds of people in the world with all the kinds of mental issues they could have, I’ve never seen more vicious hatred of a group than pedophiles. Not to defend them, but it could be as simple as having a sexual attraction but literally never acting on it, yet still I see “kill them, drag them by their genitals, let dogs eat them alive and pee on them” etc… that kind of absolute dehumanizing hatred. Even the sociopaths that are literally destroying the world get by with less violent hatred.

      Again, not defending pedophiles, I just think that if it’s an issue of mental help then they should be helped, not hunted.

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        The implication of sexual attraction being a mental health issue is fraught.

        Before you let someone drag you down that slope it’s important include consent. Someone underage can’t consent to you dipping your balls in their mouth. Same for peanut butter and your pet.

        Folks like to conflate pedo and by extension homo and trans as a mental health issue. Then they try to make an argument about how a trans teen can’t consent to gender care because they’re underage. As if fucking a kid is the same as a kid saying they need help.

        The “pedo and mental health” comment smells like this kind of bait. It doesn’t look exactly like a Nazi, but it kinda smells like one.

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          I definitely understand what you’re saying, but there have to be people who find children attractive but don’t act on it so consent isn’t really the issue there, but we still have the problem of how society sees those people and the possibility of the mental anguish those people must feel. I can’t imagine what it must feel like to be “the worst human trash in the history of the world” while also not behaving in that way. :(

          I guess it’s more of a “them” problem as they aren’t acting on their attractions, maybe society shouldn’t be involved in that one? I don’t know… It just bothers me when I see that kind of hatred when there’s no way 100% of pedophiles actually act on their attractions.

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            Quick reminder of the thread so far.

            Dark humor shitpost about liberts and idf saying 12 yr olds aren’t kids.

            Mild honest defense of libertarianism that either misunderstood or is gleefully playing straight in a shit post about dead kids.

            A dog whistle about pedo healthcare.

            Your thoughtful question.

            Me honestly answering it with a dash of pissposting.

            You asking about the hypothetical ideal innocent pedo and now I’m wondering if you’re shitposting too and I fell for it.

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              No definitely not shit posting lol sorry if it seemed that way.

              I didn’t want to really reveal anything, but this is a personal thing as I know someone who is in this situation. And no I’m not reporting them, that’s not only a literal death sentence for them but I’ve known this person long enough to know they’d never hurt anyone. They opened up about seeing pictures when we were drunk a long time ago and so it bothers me when I see the hatred because I think of my friend so I’m just getting a feel for what people think.

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          This is a textbook case of ideological reasoning.

          Instead of reasoning that X is true or false based on evidence that it’s true or false, one reasons that X must be false because if it were true it might encourage thinking Y, where Y is unacceptable.

          Literally the definition of ideologically-motivated reasoning.