Almost 90 bombs were dropped in one region in just 24 hours.

Russia unleashed an unprecedented bombardment in southern Ukraine overnight in what local officials described as a “massive attack” in the conflict which has continued to rage even as the international community’s attention has moved to the war between Israel and Hamas in Gaza.

The Ukrainian Internal Affairs Ministry on Monday morning said Russia dropped at least “87 aerial bombs on populated areas of the Kherson region - the largest number for all time.” At least eight people were also injured in other Russian strikes carried out in the Odessa region further to the west on Sunday night.

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    • Russian: fighting an armed country and fueled by NATO members
    • Israel: fighting. I mean BOMBING from their heated offices, civil without shoes and haven’t sleep for 2weeks

    Oh and between, Russia has been cut off from SWIFT, assets frozen if not stolen, etc etc… Israel? freepass

    You can’t make more cynical, and binary treatment, you can’t

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      Russia: fighting to expand their territory because they want a new world order led by them Israel: responding to their most terrifying act of terror ever happened on their land.

      Reason matters, and a lot. Russia has no good reason to invade Ukraine, Israel has a very good reason to invade Gaza.

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        Theyre both violating the Geneva Convention…

        There’s no valid reason to violate that, that’s the whole point of it.

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          Actually Israel isn’t technically violating the Geneva Convention. When you co-locate civilian and military targets, the civilian infrastructure loses it’s protections under the Convention.

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            The occupation of the West Bank is in violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention, article 49. This has been established by the International Court of Justice in a ruling from 2004. Israel’s defense was indeed that the territory is disputed instead of occupied, but it’s the only country that holds this position. Literally the only country in the world.

            The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies.

            Sources: Fourth Geneva Convention, ruling of the International Court of Justice (relevant are paragraphs 90-101)

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              The West Bank isn’t at war. The Gaza Strip is. That’s the area Israel pulled out of and evicted (some at gunpoint) every Jewish settler; even those who had been there since before the 1948 partition plan. They’ve respected the 1967 borders there with no settlements as a way to prove that pulling back to those borders would lead to peace and not constant terrorism and warfare.

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                  It doesn’t, he just talked about how the west bank is not relevant to the geneva convention, and his point still stands in Gaza. Civilian and terror infrastructure is intertwined in Gaza, and that’s his argument.

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            Lots of other countries manage to fight terrorism without violating the Geneva Convention and killing over 10,000 civilians…

            Do you think Israel is just that incompetent they can’t?

            If so, how does it make sense to give a government so incompetent literal billions of dollars a year?

            But regardless of why the fact is the Geneva Convention is being openly violated. Which is a precedent that hurts literally every human on Earth

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                Well, that’s your opinion, and I don’t care much for Bidens opinion either.

                Over the decades of his political career, the only times he’s criticized Israels human rights abuses is to tell them it makes it harder for us to give them billions of dollars a year.

                He doesn’t care about murdered Palestinian citizens, he just wants to keep the pipeline going so US defense firms get funneled tax payer money.

                Do you not know anything about his political history before 2008?

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                  It’s the same reason all American Presidents are “friendly” with Saudia Arabia, also. They have something we want.

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            Quick question bro but like what’s the ratio of dead Palestinian kids we’re shooting for that’s gonna make em square? Because you can say “we got the bad guy” all ya want, but if you had to bomb a refugee camp 3x to do so, for example, well that brings up some moral qualms for a lot of people.

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                Uh… Yes? Multiple multinational treaties are now in place that disallow indiscriminate carpet bombings

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                    Look at this armchair warrior, giving his enlightened opinion about how Israel or any nation is justified in bombing civilians, old, young, women.

                    Try having bombs dropped on your head for a conflict you don’t have a voice on. It’s always the privileged assholes who think like this.

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                    A lot of " strategic bombing " was just to target civilians to cause terror. From the wiki: “Strategic bombing often involved bombing areas inhabited by civilians, and some campaigns were deliberately designed to target civilian populations in order to terrorize them and disrupt their usual activities.”

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        You left out the part where Israel has been murdering Palestinians and stealing their land for decades, and turned Gaza into an open air prison. That kind of thing pisses people off.

        That still doesn’t make any of this right.

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          You missed the part about Israel fighting Arabs and Palestinians for their very existence since 1948. It’s not a simple situation. Whereas Ukraine is simply a megalomaniac trying to expand his power at all cost.

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            You missed the part where Arabs had been on that land for over a thousand years before the European Allies decided to sent their Jews back “home.”

            Also, fuck Putin.

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          Palestine isn’t a country so it’s not their land

          Also it was stolen from Israel a thousand years ago so they are just taking it back

          Focus on the murdering part it’s bad enough that you don’t need to make up reasons

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        Lemmy is just weirdly pro-Hamas and anti-Israel.

        Don’t get me wrong, I think what Israel is doing sucks, but what Hamas is doing is equally bad. This is really a both-sides situation.

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          Israel is killing many, many more Palestinians than Hamas is killing Israelis and it has been this way for decades.

          Also, doing wrong when done “in retaliation” is still doing wrong.

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            Also, doing wrong when done “in retaliation” is still doing wrong.

            So… We agree that Israel killing civilians in response to Hamas’s attack is wrong, just as Hamas killing civilians in response to persecution by Israel is wrong?

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              Yep.

              Weird how you misconstrue criticizing Israel’s genocide with support for Hamas tho. Very concerning.

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          This is really a both-sides situation.

          Hamas isn’t Palestine. Israeli gov isn’t Israel.

          When you make simple distinctions like this, things get less complicated.

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        There is a difference between invading and turning Gaza into a concentration camp.

        You’d think the Jews would know better.

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          Oh right, Gaza the concentration camp where children are forced to work with no pay, women are raped then killed and trains are used to carry people for 3 days without water/food to a gas chamber killing everyone.

          Oh oops that was the Holocaust. Silly me, it’s just that the media told me Gazans are experiencing the holocaust so I mixed the two up.

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        Israel brought the terror on themselves. They are literally committing genocide.

        Also, Russia is fighting to maintain it’s black sea port, which NATO interfered with. That territory has always been Russian, and only US propaganda claims otherwise. Want proof? Go look at the board games Diplomacy and Axis and Allies, based on WW1/2 respectively. Both show Crimea as Russia. Or just look at Wikipedia, for this and other easily verifiable facts.

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          Board games as proof? Crimea was part of the USSR sure ,but it was transferred to Ukraine so it’s no longer part of Russia, nothing to do with Nato, Russia wants to expand and they should get fucked.

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          If you go back further you had the Kyiv Rus there and it was Ukrainian plus parts of Russia were too.