President Joe Biden and his top advisers are warning Israel with growing force that it will become increasingly difficult for it to pursue its military goals in Gaza as global outcry intensifies about the scale of humanitarian suffering there.
    • Siegfried@lemmy.worldEnglish
      9·
      1 year ago

      I don’t understand why they need the money… I mean, don’t they have a whole ton of modern military resources already?

      • LaLiLuLuCo@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        43·
        1 year ago

        If Israel falls the entire region gets glassed by nukes. They are suspected to have nearly as many as China. They are a world leader in missile tech. They won’t miss.

        It’s called the Samson Plan. Russia has a similar doctrine, as probably does most nuclear powers.

        Defending them via aid which, in the current war, is $1-2 billion dollars in defensive interceptor missiles already, is a good investment. Biden literally said it was the best investment America makes during his speech a little while ago. He’s said that before in the 90s if I recall correctly, back when he was the senate foreign relations guy.

        Israel is also a giant weapons rnd and live fire experiment for the US military industrial complex. They aren’t giving it up. Israel is the first country to deploy laser weaponry in their defense (light knife), and in this war is live testing the state of the art Iron Beam (Light Shield).

        This is the real Politik people miss when discussing Israel and Palestine ignorant of most of the historical context.

        The entire region has tried to delete Israel before. The state isn’t going anywhere without taking everyone else with them.

        • Siegfried@lemmy.worldEnglish
          41·
          1 year ago

          So, we are protecting the bomb vest dude now? /$ I would argue that every country with nukes has this doctrine. Superpowers are the fucking devil walking on earth.

          I think everything you stated is correct, but I don’t think that Israel is even remotely close to being deleted at this moment. Wanting to and actually being able to are totally different situations, unless what you are stating is that Israel is looking for any excuse to abomb the Middle East.

          Meanwhile, Ukraine looks to be struggling with its counterattack*.

          • LaLiLuLuCo@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            32·
            1 year ago

            The thing a lot of people miss is that the whole suicidal spiteful blaze of glory is a regional thing. Not a Muslim thing.

            Read up on the Siege of Masada, it’s an important local story.

            It was more apparent when there were a bunch of paramilitaries before they crystallized into Israel.

            Israel also regularly assassinates summarily people in foreign countries who kill it’s citizens. Look up the Munich Olympics in the 1970s. https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4509923,00.html side note this motherfucker was one of the most pro peace politicians to head up the government in the modern era after Rabin.

            Also the capability thing is that the Israeli population is tiny compared to its neighbors. It whoops ass historically, everyone having training and a cause to fight for does that, but the threat is always there of just storming the country with bodies.

            Ukraine gave up their nukes in what is going down in history as one of the stupidest decisions a government has ever made.