Quote: “We must teach Israel a lesson, and we will do it again and again. The Al-Aqsa Deluge [the name Hamas gave its 7 October onslaught - ed.] is just the first time, and there will be a second, a third, a fourth. Will we have to pay a price? Yes, and we are ready to pay it. We are called a nation of martyrs, and we are proud to sacrifice martyrs.”

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      You’ll find a lot of comments along the lines of the Hamas government and Hamas terrorist organization being fundamentally separate entities. You’ll also find a lot of people dismissing the claims in articles like this one or trying to paint anyone in Hamas inciting violence as ‘not important’.

      The idea is to foster a narrative to paint Israel as ‘just as bad as hamas’ and while Israel has done many bad things, the gap between the two is massive. I think it mostly comes from a desire to paint one side as ‘good’ and one side as ‘evil’ which isn’t always easy.

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        Over 30 Harvard organizations

        Student groups.

        Almost all muslim student groups.

        Who immediately got denounced hard by every other Harvard institution.

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        said Israel is entirely responsible for all unfolding violence.

        Mostly true, not supporting Hamas.

        called it innovative Palestinian resistance

        It’s innovative, and starting the attack when the occupation soldiers have just moved to terrorize the West bank is pretty smart.

        called the attacks exhilarating and energizing

        Eh, maybe if that was said on the first day of the attack, but it got ugly quickly. They almost sank to the IDF’s level.

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      Many people are calling Hamas “freedom fighters” and outright defending its actions. I would say the majority of Fediverse users fall into this camp, from what I’ve seen.

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        A majority? Well, you’re either lying or you have a severely distorted view of reality.

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        We’re simply calling for the stop of oppression and genocide and ethnic cleansing, if that constitute supporting Hamas then you be you.

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          No, I mean people literally calling Hamas “freedom fighters”, and outright cheering them on. There’s a difference between “calling for the stop of oppression and genocide and ethnic cleansing” and blatantly supporting the actions of a terror organization.

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            People cheer for nazis, too. Are you going to make a generic claim that “It’s mind-blowing that people defend these monsters” as well? Maybe you should make a comment about people who “defend” mass shooters too! Let’s not forget all those “defenders” of eugenics.

            Just because you see one or two people making propaganda doesn’t mean it’s something reasonable people are doing.

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              I don’t believe it is reasonable, but as I said, I am surprised by how many people are unreasonably supportive of Hamas, despite otherwise priding themselves on being progressive forward-thinkers.

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        You’ve got a mistaken view of things, but most of the Tankies do support Hamas I’d say. They’ve got this stupid ideology that anything that attacks the major driving force of capitalist imperialism (the US) is a good thing. It’s like bizzaro American exceptionalism.

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          Maybe the majority of comments I’ve seen have been by the tankies, then. There sure are a lot more tankies than I thought, though.

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        I have never seen anyone supporting hamas, at most justifying the legitimacy of some of its objectives and the right to fight for them, but not its actions; always being critical of hamas and its war crimes.

        In fact, high tolerance or even open support for war crimes is something I have only seen on the zionist side.