If you are a pirate VPN is an essential tool. I am trying to ascertain the popularity of various VPNs in piracy community. In this excerise, I will list several Popular VPNs in the comment if you use one of them just upvote that comment and reply the reason. If you don’t find your VPN listed add a comment with just their name. Reply the reason to it. This make it easier to understand the real life user cases.

P.S: I am only looking for paid VPNs please don’t mention “free vpn”.

    • Staple_Diet@aussie.zone
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      I used Mullvad, found them great for everything and would be my only VPN if they were big enough to facilitate streaming via other countries. Due to smaller number of servers it isn’t possible to use a lot of streaming services with them…I found this out when o/s and needing to VPN into my home country to access my geo-locked streaming service.

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        I see that Proton allows payment via PayPal. Is it possible to pay via PayPal anonymously? I don’t use PP much at all so IDK.

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    So… at the risk of humiliating myself,
    I’ve never once used a VPN in my entire life.

    I pirated games, movies, shows, music, software… and the worst thing that happened to me was getting a letter from Telus once or twice saying “Hey. Don’t do that.”

    That was 5 years ago

    I know it’s bad practice. But is a VPN 100% necessary? Even a free one?

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      I find incredible that it’s absolutely illegal for anyone to read your letters and only the police can do that and only if a judge grant them the right to do that case by case, and a private telecommunications company can read absolutely all your digital communication with no judge involved and no one blinks an eye.

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        11 months ago

        I’m gonna google “How to bomb Telus Headquarters and assassinate their board of directors” and see how fast they respond

      • Melmi@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        Generally CnD letters are not generated by the ISPs themselves. ISPs don’t care what you do unless legally obligated to. When you get a CnD letter, it’s usually because someone working for a copyright holder was on a torrent and snagged your IP, then sent an infringement notice to your ISP, who in turn sends a CnD to the current holder of the IP, i.e. you.

        At no point does your ISP have to read your digital communications themselves. Any one of your peers on a torrent can tell what your public IP address is, it’s inherent to the BitTorrent protocol. Copyright holders take advantage of this to catch pirates.

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        and a private telecommunications company can read absolutely all your digital communication

        Well maybe. It’s one of the reasons e2e encryption is so imperative to online privacy. For instance, turning on https everywhere, then your isp can only see which servers you’re connecting to, not what’s in your traffic to them.

        And to point it out up front, yeah the distant end’s servers likely have some for of that traffic captured, but now law enforcement has to dig up every company that they’re trying to pull info from. Which is significantly more difficult than just relying on a one stop shop arrangement.

        And for the best privacy, like security, a multi-layered approach is better. So throw in a VPN, throw in something like a mullvad browser, throw in pseudonymous accounts, throw in different usernames + passwords across accounts, throw in…

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      11 months ago

      That’s because you’re in Canada. We don’t need to worry like Americans can. It’s not really necessary for us.

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      While people sometimes suggest ignoring it because they say that your ISP is only sending you those notices because the laws compel them to and you downloaded something that was tracked, you may want to evaluate your risk.

      Nothing has happened so far. Could something happen in the future?

      Your ISP has built an entire portfolio of the things you’ve done online and which content you pirated. Who know how long your ISP retains that data, or which companies or regulatory bodies it shares this data with?

      Laws may change.

      Up to you on what you want to do with this information.

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      I think of it like having sex with or without a condom. If you don’t use a condom, there’s a chance to get an STD (or get “caught”). It’s not a guarantee to get caught, your IP address needs to end up in the pool of addresses they collect to send out DMCA notices so it won’t happen every time. But having a “condom” (VPN) reduces your chances by nearly 100%, assuming it’s properly setup which usually is a very simple process

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      Same here. Started with IRC, then private trackers. Always force encryption. Zero issues. VPN is a waste of money for piracy.

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      11 months ago

      Port forwarding, relatively cheap, runs a good Black Friday sale, and I think its log policy is decent from what I remember.

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      The airvpn client feels pretty outdated compared to something like mullvad. This might not be a big deal for everyone and there are ways around it but I always see airvpn recommended but noone ever mentions this

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        11 months ago

        The Wireguard client is good enough. I wouldn’t trust VPN providers’ custom apps to be as secure, privacy-focused or reliable as the official client ones.

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        11 months ago

        Ever since I switched to Linux I don’t really use Eddie as much, but I agree it could be more intuitive. Even on Windows I typically only spent 30 seconds or less with the client, though, so it didn’t bother me.

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    PIA, just because I’m lazy and it’s been fine for like a decade. If there is something better, happy to hear about it.

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      PIA was sold to Kape Technologies a few years back and they have somewhat questionable history and that made me switch to Mullvad. Not because I thought it’s better VPN per-se, but because I wanted away from PIA and Mullvad seemed popular.

      The issue is who he sold it to – the notorious creator of some pernicious data-huffing ad-ware, Crossrider. The UK-based company was cofounded by an ex-Israeli surveillance agent and a billionaire previously convicted of insider trading who was later named in the Panama Papers. It produced software which previously allowed third-party developers to hijack users’ browsers via malware injection, redirect traffic to advertisers and slurp up private data.

      Source

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        I’m on pia too I have a seed box anyway so it’s just for https queries. The seed box transfers locally via ssh

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    Proton VPN since it’s cheaper than ExpressVPN but apparently faster than other paid VPN options, while also having port forwarding to improve torrent connectivity.

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    Currently testing Windscribe because they had good offer for a yearly subscription and some interesting features like ad block (mostly useful for mobile). Their privacy level is sufficient for what I’m doing currently, but if I ever need I’ll just Mullvad.

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    I use IVPN and I’m very happy with them. They allow you to make an account without giving out your Email address, you just get a random-generated Account ID (Mullvad does the same btw). They also allow you to pay with Monero, an anonymous crypto currency. I used Mullvad before, Proton VPN and AirVPN are great options as well.

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    Currently proton its decent though I’m thinking of moving to mullvad even though they’ve removed portforwarding.

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      Mullvad is great. Also check out IVPN, they are kinda similar to Mullvad (they also allow for anonymous registration without an Email address and they accept anonymous Monero payments). Maybe take a look at AirVPN if you need port forwarding.

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      I’ve used both and much prefer Proton for sailing the seas. Connecting through France (highest speed + p2p) with port forwarding is the best torrent speed I’ve had on a VPN. The only slight annoyance is it switching the forwarded port every time it reconnects, but I run it 24/7 anyway.

      Just skip the “official” client and run it through gluetun. It’s a much better experience.

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      I did this and found it worked way better in terms of stability. Bonus is that Mullvad has a proper Linux client whereas Proton’s is just a cobbled-together mess that’s not worth using and is no where close to feature parity with the Windows client

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        And in the case that your Linux distro doesn’t have a client in their repos, you can very easily use Mullvad with wireguard in the terminal.

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          you can very easily use Mullvad with wireguard in the terminal

          To be fair, same with Proton. OpenVPN and WireGuard configurations are available.

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      How do you pay the VPS Provider? The Cops can simply go to the VPS Provider and ask what Bank account or paypal is linked to the Account who runs the Server with the IP address they tracked. And what if the VPS Provider is logging your traffic? They can Monitor anything that leaves your VPS (their network) because a VPS is just a Virtual Machine like KVM thats why its called VPS = VIRTUAL Private Server. OPSEC my friend… I think you are safer if you just use Mullvad and pay with XMR and only access the mullvad site from Tor. (I know i am paranoid xD)

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        With my credit card, I’m not worried about the police coming after me. Pirating is a civil issue not a criminal issue.

        But how do you think they are running their VPNs? As we have seen from the past, Paid VPNs can track what you do any way. Just make sure you’re using HTTPS and you have setup your OS to encrypt your data and you’re fine. No one’s going through the effort to catch youre suspected of doing something serious enough.

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      Torguard has port forwarding which is essential if you belong to private trackers. Wireguard connection is very fast and stable. Plenty of 50% off coupons that are easy to find via Google. This summer, they had a 70% off coupon. I opened a ticket and they quickly applied the coupon to my existing account.

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      Torguard is the best! $30 per year with my current plan and it’s reliable enough to play games.