• irmoz@reddthat.com
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    In my opinion, Marx wrote his conclusion first, then cherry picked the points in history that supported his conclusion.

    I can’t fathom the arrogance of people who say “Marx just didn’t think of x, y or z”. He invariably did, and a quote is easily found to prove them wrong. Yet they continue to say this bollocks. “Marx didn’t consider human nature, Marx didn’t know about x obscure economic theory,” on and on until the cows come home. Capital has 3 volumes, and each is thick and heavy enough to make a decent murder weapon. They are so long precisely because he did do the thinking you accuse him of not doing.

    The one single thing we can legitimately say he didn’t anticipate was the computer revolution, and it in fact only strengthens his theories, as digital technology has gone on to strengthen the hold of capital, and laid bare its incestuous relationship with the State.

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      Nothing you said rebutted the section of my comment you quoted, you just started fighting strawmen

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        Don’t try and lie so blatantly. I directly responded to your implication that Marx just wasn’t thinking about things clearly.

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          In my opinion, Marx wrote his conclusion first, then cherry picked the points in history that supported his conclusion.

          Nothing in that implies what you’re accusing me of

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            Oh, get fucked if you’re gonna try the pedantic game. Go ahead and tell me how I got it wrong and what you really meant if you’re gonna try this sleazy tactic. Otherwise, stfu with your bollocks.

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              Oh ok, what I really meant was:

              In my opinion, Marx wrote his conclusion first, then cherry picked the points in history that supported his conclusion.

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                    You can claim I haven’t, but anyone with a brain can see my original response and see that I in fact have.

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      Marx made mistakes though. For example, he assumed that the right of appropriating the whole product of a firm and control rights to direct the workers in the firm were attached to the ownership of capital. In reality, capital can be rented out just as labor can be hired. It is really the employer-employee contract that is at the core of capitalist appropriation. Ownership of capital just increases bargaining power to get favorable contract terms such as the employer contractual role