• SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    For sure, but that wasn’t really my point, which was intentions and goals. Hamas is not a “good guy” since they will take every chance of murdering and kidnapping israeli citizens if it’s by high-precision missiles or fucking gliders straight out of a comic book, and israelis aren’t the “good guys” for barraging palestinian civvies while taking tiktoks.

    I feel vile for all this good guys bad guys rhetoric ffs gotta take a showa

    • HelixDab2@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      Oh, I’m not saying that Hamas is good guys. They’re not. They’re terrorists.

      But by the scope and scale, by the amount of force that they’re able to bring to bear, and by the sheer number of non-combatants being killed, the IDF is far, far worse. Hamas targeted civilians on purpose, the IDF is simply indiscriminate.

      The Allied forces utilized the tactics of total-war during WWII, with things like the firebombing of Dresden, or Tokyo. The idea was to break the will of the people to fight. Well, spoiler: it doesn’t work. When you kill someone’s whole family, their friends, blow up their house and community, they end up having an even stronger desire to fight back. Just like the bombings of London by Germany increased the resolve of Britons, so did the indiscriminate massacre of civilians by the Allies increase the resolve of the Germans.

      The actions of the IDF are going to give Hamas it’s next generation of fighters, people willing to die to kill Israel.

      • assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Hamas targeted civilians on purpose, the IDF is simply indiscriminate.

        I think the former is way worse. Besides, there’s no point in debating this. They’re both horrible. Agreed? Then let’s move on.

    • dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      1 year ago

      Israel did knowingly bomb a refugee camp. Twice. Kind of hard to defend that behavior as “self defense”.