If the company tells the union to fuck off, all of the workers who belong to that union walk off the job and the employer has to run short handed or shut down production.

The union is the workers joining together so that they have more bargaining power - all the people who know how the business works are sitting idle. Can the business afford to replace and retrain them all?

a union is a legally protected way for works to collectively bargain with their employers. Internally, union dues are used to pay for legal assistance (among other things) that can help the workers. A union can make the affiliated company do things by creating legal agreements and organizing strikes. A company often finds it is easier to give into a unions demands rather than have their employees stop working and hold signs outside letting everyone know that they are being treated poorly. A company can tell a union to fuck off and they often do, this leads to the workers going on strike and bringing business to a standstill.

Almost every right that workers have today has been won by unions, sometimes violently. 40 hour work weeks, weekends off, vacation days, sick days, health benefits, minimum wage, overtime pay, and many others are all from the collective bargaining power of workers unions.

What is a worker’s union?

A group of workers that act together for mutual benefit

How does it internally work?

Each can organise in its own wat

How can a union make the affiliated company do stuff to benefit the union(why can"t a company just say: f*ck off to their demands)?

Because there’s a large difference between the bargaining power a single employee has than all of them together. If one employee says “give me the weekend off or I stop working” the company will fire him, lose a small bit of productivity temporarily, hire one guy and have someone train him, in a short while they’re up again to the same productivity level and that’s that. If all of the workers say at the same time “give us the weekend off or we stop working” the company can’t fire everyone, I mean, they can, but it will take them a long time to hire the same amount of people, then hire external people to train them, then wait until they get up to speed and produce the same amount of work the previous guys did, and in the meantime they produce 0 so they’re burning money and missing deadlines… In other words, it’s cheaper for the company to talk to the union than it is to have to fire everyone.

They try. They hire temp workers known as scabs to try and continue producing. These individuals are looked upon as scum. Scabs are looked down on and become pariah of there town so not many people are willing to become scabs. Without workers willing to become scabs the company is forced to come to the table out of necessity.

a union is a group of employees who band together to bargain for better terms in their contract. better wages, better benefits, workplace safety. Hours and priority. Stuff like that.

When you work for a company, you have a contract to provide that work in exchange for payment. Everyone has a contract. Without a union, you’re on your own negotiating that contract- among other things leading to income inequality and bullshit managers underbidding the job to shit employees.

the union bargains that contract collectively, giving them more bargaining power and -ostensibly- getting you a better contract. Not every union is as interested in actually doing their job, mind you. most are at least ‘okay’.

The union also ostensibly provides representation in disputes with management. If you’re being written up or harassed, or management is making you work someplace unsafe, they have legal resources on tap to help, and for example, if I want to discipline an employee (i.e. write them up,) I have to offer setting the meeting up with their union rep. and we can’t “just” terminate you for being an incompentent lunatic- we have to document shit. this leads to management usually documenting every stupid thing you do- including being 1 minute late and going to the shitter too frequently. so we can show “a pattern of behavior” that gives cause- because we don’t like paying unemployment.

*unions are broadly effective. but there are one or two that in my experience don’t give a flying shit about their people. one way to tell is getting a hold of their financials and seeing where the dues go. excessive political contributions, leadership pay, vs strike fund or legal rep for employees.

Before unions were a thing, effective negotiations with management often looked something like this:

hey boss, me and the boys have decided that we enjoy being able to give our families dinner every night, so you’re going to give us a raise, or we’ll burn your fucking factory to the ground.

It’s basically a club defending worker rights. In big companies you have to elect worker representative who are supported by unions.

HR have to meet these represertative a few time a year. They have the right to say fuck off to them, but listening what employee wants work better. Union rep are also involved in investigating work accidents and in some countries (Germany) even sit at the company board

A union is a group of employees who negotiate with an employer for things like standard pay, benifits and conditions.

Why can’t a business say 🖕 to a union? Because two things will happen, the staff will stop working until the buniness recognise the union or the staff will quit and the business will have to hire new people.

Both of these cause either a loss of revenue while work is not happening or a decrease in productivity while new staff are found and onboarded.

A workers union is an organization made up of workers who have decided to work together to try and force a company/employer to give in to the demands of the workers.

The reason why it works is that the union have several actions they can take if the demands are not met.

First of all, all union members pay a membership fee, most of that money goes into a fund to enable the workers to actually take the actions required.

So what actions can a union take against the employer?

1. Striking, all workers down tools and stop working, this harms the employer as no money is being made from their workers, the buildings still costs money for upkeep and power, naturally an epmloyer wont pay their employees on strike, this is when the union themselves pay ther members from the fund set up.

2. Lockout, a union can prevent other workers from entering a place of work when they are striking, this stops the employer from hiring strike breakers.

3. Legal action can also be taken.

well its all dependent on negotiating power of the union to cost the company profits if they strike and the trust in union that the company will not violate any contract they sign. The whole thing is dependent on the ability of the union to effectively strike and it doesnt always work and companies are willing to take a loss sometimes

You might check out the work reform community

A union works almost the same way an HOA works. A group of people get together and sign a contract agreeing to abide by certain rules.

Internally, there’s generally a governing board, usually an elected one, but occasionally you get a dictatorship type deal. They may or may not implement rules, they might issue IDs of some sort, they almost invariably hold meetings, and almost always charge dues, which is a fee members pay to be a member, in principle to fund union activities.

The leverage a union holds it’s in its membership. Generally the rules of a union are that as a member you agree to certain actions, and the obvious is to strike. The most common union rule is that if the union body calls a strike, you aren’t allowed to come to work. That gives the union body the ability to force a company to meet certain demands or face the prospect of not having anyone show up.

The basic overall concept is that the union leadership negotiates with company leadership on behalf of the union members.

The downsides are also similar to an HOA, especially when a union gets very large. You can find yourself subject to rules governing your behavior, your appearance, your hours, etc. You might find yourself being more an employee of the union than the company.

Small unions are almost always beneficial, but can lack negotiating power. Large ones can and often do become self serving and overly political, but have a lot of power to affect pay, benefits, hours, etc. for their members