• Samsy@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    History is written by the winners. And they decide what was a crime and what was self defense.

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      Robert Bulwer-Lytton, George Curzon, and Winston Churchill. Their actions are not considered criminal even to this day - in fact, the first two people are not even known by the common masses. Read about how they are responsible for creating a system of artificial famine in the Indian subcontinent in the 18th, 19th and 20th century respectively. Why is it that just after the Indian independence, there were no major famine?

      Those are just three names, British to be exact, and there’s many more out there, but I’m pretty sure there’s also Portuguese, Dutch, Danish and French war criminals. It is just that they’re “lost in history”, because history is written by the winners, it seems.

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        “War criminal” is not a term applied liberally to describe people who presided over bad things. It is a term defined by treaty in international law.

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              the colonial occupation means a continuous state of war, so it makes it a war crime. maybe you should stop being a debatebro.

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              You’d be better off arguing a case of genocide instead.

              You mean… that thing people who know better have been accusing Israel off since the very start?

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                  Nobody is in the clear right and nobody is blameless.

                  No matter what anyone has done - it is Israel (and it’s western backers) that carries full responsibility for what occurs here. Period.

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                  if a state was perpetuating apartheid (a crime against humanity), ethnic cleansing, and a genocide against your people, where you have most likely personally known/were related to someone who was killed or severely injured by that state

                  don’t you think you’d be just a little bit teeny tiny little bit more radical?

                  also, do not equate colonizers to the colonized, one is there to displace and oppress, one is the indigenous population that was ethnically cleansed and massacred.

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                1 year ago

                Exactly what I’m saying. And no, I don’t find it wrong at all to think this way. I’m sorry if you were angered or offended in some way by my previous comment.

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        Nope, just that Hitler is one notable counterexample. There are plenty more European war criminals.

        Don’t forget Hideki Tojo too. Not white, but still a light-skinned war criminal.

        Vladamir Putin is wanted for crimes against humanity right now. There is a warrant out for his arrest.

        And are we just allowing the current situation in Israel to slip our minds voluntarily?

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      Man these people are so lost in their stupid ideology lmao

      There’s a shit ton of white war criminals that everyone knows about. And literally every war criminal justifies their actions in some way, usually defense.