Summary
In Wayne County, Arab American precincts rejected Kamala Harris, with Biden receiving 82% of the vote in 2020 and Harris only 23% in 2024.
Trump’s outreach to Arab American and Muslim communities, including visits to Dearborn and Hamtramck, contributed to his increased support.
Harris’s performance in Dearborn, where she received only 13% of the vote in the south end, reflects the backlash against Biden’s handling of foreign policy in the Middle East.
they only care about themselves, and their misguided belief that they are ‘doing the right thing’ and ‘paying back’ biden.
if they cared at all about gaza, about the west bank, about palestine and its people, they would have come out in force, and in support of democrats from coast to coast. anything to prevent another trump presidency.
trump was never on their side and will let israel do whatever they want.
just like he’ll let russia do whatever they want and ukraine will cease to exist. protest votes, like those in michigan, helped doom ukraine, too.
I’m not going to laugh if trump starts deporting Muslims - including those here legally… but I probably won’t feel too bad about it either.
- German liberal 1936
I’ll feel bad, along with when they come for all the other immigrant groups who voted for Trump, and eventually for the rest of us.
Now is the time to build coalitions, and work together to confront what is coming.
We keep talking about how to “get through” to voters…
Well, cold reality is a very effective tool, and many people will be regretting their choices in the coming days. We’d be stupid to turn them away instead of showing them we believe in the same core values.
True! All these people so quick to watch those most in danger get carried off knowing they can blend into the fascism state thats coming. It’s crazy seeing it with my own eyes.
They’re not going to regret shit until an immigration officer with a military detachment is knocking on their doors.
L*berals will see literal genocide and say “this is ok bc they deserve it for not voting blue no matter who”
Um, a lot of these people voted for Red, accelerated genocide. It’s hard to find sympathy for that behavior.
A lot of these people did not vote red, they just didn’t vote blue. They found both parties advocating genocide incompatible with them.
Hopefully you will never understand what it’s like to have to choose between two political parties that both want you dead. As a gay man I know that reality, and fully support their choice to not go with blue genocide over red genocide.
In support of, (checks notes) … The woman who never meaningfully distanced herself from Biden’s policy of funding the Genocide of their families.
Yeah. Super shocked. Super.
Well at least they can complain altogether when Trump reports them all.
Stupid fucking people.
Mask drops and the liberal becomes racist when the race in question doesn’t vote for their party. Classic. It’s so classic that I can show you a song from 1966 singing it
People who don’t agree with you aren’t stupid. They just have a different life they’re living.
Both can be true. Lot of ways to live. Lot of stupid people.
Harris refused to take a stand against Israel so why should they vote for her?
Why are they selfish? Because they didn’t vote how YOU wanted? Who’s being selfish here?
Oh yea, because Trump’s definitely gonna take a stand against Israel and TOTALLY won’t give them a blank check and encourage genocide. Nope.
At least we didn’t give that blUe MagA the Trifecta! We did it Lemmy!
They didn’t vote for trump. They didn’t vote. Both sides promised to continue the genocide. That’s pretty fair.
And yet Trump was the man Netanyahu wanted. Why in the world wouldn’t that be their sign. Oh, I guess to be fair it doesn’t rhyme, so it was probably hard for you guys to understand.
This is the thing I can stand least about liberals. They’re the smartest, most moral people in the world and anyone who doesn’t vote their way for any reason is stupid and bad
“Voting 3rd party or sitting out during the election basically cedes the election to one of two parties. We should at least choose the party that has a better chance to be swayed against genocide than the one who openly advocates for the genociders to ‘finish the job’”
“L1b3RaL!!1!a”
I’m not saying liberals are the smartest and most moral people, they definitely aren’t. But dismissing reality of the American political system and the almost certain likelihood of the US presidential election to vote for neither of the two main parties and expecting something good to come out of it is pretty telling to one’s critical thinking skills.
I expect nothing good to come from voting 🤷
Great, so you’re part of the problem just like the democrats are 👍
Classic. Here’s a song written in 1966 about the same thing https://youtu.be/3cdqQ2BdgOA?si=Quu3uCr8FEPUlTGr
Which is crazy cuz I’m actually the smartest, most moral person in the world, and I voted for De La Cruz
Harris could’ve fixed that by promising not to blow up Palestine. This is purely on her and Biden for being unelectable, not on people refusing to vote for someone who will wipe them out
Do you see it yet?
So allow the candidate to supercharge the extermination to win? That’s one helluva strategy. Certainly one way to try and shift the blame to one side when there’s plenty to go around for both dems and the uncommitted
Yet you only ever complain about how “the uncommitted” are the problem, and never dems 🤔
Having trouble reading my comment, buddy? I literally said “uncommitted and dems”. Both are trying to blame the other, when in reality both have played a hand. No one’s hands are clean in this
You’re not any less obvious than someone who sees “fuck nazis” and says “fuck nazis AND communists”. Your problem isn’t liberals, hence why you never complain about them and only complain about others, despite claiming both are at fault. If yall liberals really still think leftists believe any of your transparent lies, you’re very mistaken
Pointing out uncommitted and 3rd party voters are just as much to blame for trump regaining office as liberal democrats are isn’t not the same thing as responding to “fuck nazis” with “fuck nazis and communists.” One is expressing an opinion which gives away your character while the other one points out the roles both groups made. You may not like it, but defaulting to not voting for either of the two parties in a 2-party system doesn’t make you innocent of the fact that the worst elect won in part because of a choice you and many others made. The lib politicians and leaders are assholes, but they were miles better than trump. But I guess you’re thinking otherwise with the way you throw “liberal” around like an insult to everyone you disagree with.
Wait are you even a liberal? I decided to check your profile for the basic libshit but this thread is the only thing you’ve interacted with, sorry if I incorrectly assumed you’re a liberal
not on people refusing to vote for someone who will wipe them out
Man I totally forgot Trump is actually a peace loving, human-rights respecting person and totally won’t give Israel a blank check. Can’t wait for the news article about how Trump’s totally gonna get Israel to stop!
Good thing we didn’t vote in BlUe MagA right guys?
I’m afraid these guys are incapable of complex morale situations, not understanding how the lines are blurred in most situations. They just want everything to be good or bad, nothing in between.
Let’s not stop the genocide, instead let’s advocate for lil genocide. It’s a compromise with BIG genocide. Oh no, that plan didn’t work, the people who wanted genocide voted for big genocide. And the people who wanted no genocide didn’t vote. Damn those no genocide voters, don’t they know that a lil genocide is better than big genocide?
I will learn nothing from this and do it again.
Nah, I just don’t like Palestinians being ethnically cleansed by weapons I paid for. Wish liberals could say the same, but yall believe genocide is a necessary sacrifice to gain power
Palestinians being ethnically cleansed by weapons I paid for.
Well good news! Now your taxes will pay for the ethnical cleansing of Palestinians AND Americans with Trump! Congratulations!!
Nah, I just don’t like Palestinians being ethnically cleansed by weapons I paid for.
Then explain in detail how allowing Trump to be President achieves this goal. Go on. Do it.
You know people voted for candidates other than Harris and trump right? Like Arab americans voting for 3rd party candidates that haven’t promised to wipe out Gaza?
The third-parties that have never had a chance in hell of winning EVER.
A THIRD PARTY CANDIDATE HAS NEVER FUCKING WON THE PRESIDENCY IN THE ENTIRE FUCKING MODERN HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES.
ITS NEVER GOING TO FUCKING HAPPEN WITHOUT A MAJOR CHANGE IN THE ELECTION PROCESS ACROSS ALL 50 STATES
If the next dem candidate got president promises mandatory conversion therapy for trans people, I won’t vote for them, period. Guess that makes me a selfish nazi huh?
Nice redirection!
You redirected by bringing up that 3rd party candidates don’t win. That’s not the point for people that vote for them bc democrats abandoned/actively work against them. I think it prob would’ve been smarter to just vote for harris, but imo it’s very unempathetic and sanctimonious saying trump got elected bc people weren’t willing to vote for democrats who hate/don’t care about them or their rights
I’ll be watching how this bold strategy plays out in Gaza.
Oh, this is a shocking turn of events.
To clarify, this is not a new quote. However, this is the new Ambassador to Israel, I’m given to understand.
Shit, theyre gonna start bombing gaza and murdering women and children when Trumps inaugurated
Clearly you mean escalate.
We are at genocide. Now. Someone else tried coming up with the term ‘super genocide’ because whatever democrats are responsible for cant be that bad, trump has to be worse. And since we’re already at genocide, it has to be worse than genocide. Like we are currently at excusable genocide, doesnt count genocide, only technically genocide. Itll only be a crime against humanity once Trump is bombing women and children. I cant wait to see the headlines of hospitals getting hit with US missiles and people like you going “see? Its worse!”
There is no higher level of Genocide. The worst is already happening. Get the fuck out with this bad faith take.
Lol. Hope they all got their bags packed.
So minorities only deserve rights when they agree with you, even as you advocate for their death?
What makes you different from Trump supporters again? Is it really just the colour of the tie?
Imagine saying this about German Jewish folk in the Holocaust. You just gave up all pretense of advocating the moment they didn’t support your party.
I don’t know many things but the voters are obviously to blame. We drew 100 different trolley problems and told them democracy and women’s rights were on the line. We even had Bill Clinton logically explain that Palestinians were human shields. We even had better policy even though most voters didn’t know it. I can only conclude voters are selfish and that’s why they vote against their own interests.
You had me in the first half- took me to ‘human shields’ before I recognized the tone lol
Democrats told them to shut up about it. So they did…
Not only that, but Kamala’s campaign decided to send Bill Clinton to lecture them on the Gaza war, just before the election.
The Harris campaign also sent Hillary Clinton to Florida. Went over like a lead balloon.
This is crazy because typically Republicans are more supportive of Israel…
To Arabs with families in Gaza the worst is already happening. Entire branches of families have been wiped out. Trump quite literally can not be any worse for them than Biden. And Harris failed to meaningfully distance herself from Biden’s policies on Gaza. So they stayed home. This isn’t shocking, it’s an entirely human response.
