This implies Windows isn’t already enshittified, which is very much not the case.
Start menu ruined. All the UI is garbage. Fucking OneDrive.
I’m over it. Shopping distros as we speak.
Edit - Making this edit from a fresh Linux Mint install. Cheers.
I don’t even use Windows, and just reading about what’s happened to the Start menu pisses me off.
I started with DOS. Upgraded that to DOS3. Then Win95. Then 98. And since then I’ve been trying to get back to that simplicity. Best or not is wholly subjective. But that’s what I want.
You seem to think like I do. An OS is merely a tool. It should never get in your way, or be obtrusive.
One of us!
Welcome :-)
I know i didn’t mind putting up with a lot of Window’s bullshit, but I’ll never understand why they removed the single button click to create a folder in the files viewer. They moved it to a drop down. Idk if I’m the outlier but 90% of the time I used file viewer was to create folders because it was just one click of a button, but they just had to take that away lol
The final straw was when win10 started putting ads in the start menu. The start menu is so broken and bloated…
Is this an American thing? I have never seen ads in start menu in EU (Greece). Unless you mean some apps like Spotify which come with a fresh install, but I have uninstalled all of it.
It’s also an edition thing. The Home version is the worst, the Pro version is much the same, but the corporate Enterprise version cuts out a lot of the crap.
I am Australian. Yes, “suggested apps” masquerading as installed apps. Most if them shitty micro transaction games and adobe software. This is not preloaded software, I used to fresh install Windows on all my systems to get rid of that crud.
Bazzite is the best distro, especially if you game
One of us! Gooble gobble! We accept them!
I understand the rage with the start menu and, even though I am indifferent to the ui, I accept that mist people hate it. But what about onedrive? It seems to be one of the worst features for everyone, but I just have it disabled and only use it when I want to. Turn off all backup features, move it to another drive and disable auto start.
Maybe that’s where the loop starts.
everyone say goodbye to the wonderful decadess of lean, efficient, bloat-free Windows we have known and loved up until Windows 11!
it’s been smooth sailing until windows 11!
Windows 7 was the last good Windows. It was a nice polished OS that had the last decent search feature. 8 was a mess (it started without a start button) and then all the bloat/ads that came with 10 and above
Windows XP was the last good Windows. It had zero bloat, and heck, it encouraged you to use an admin account as your daily account. It didn’t have those pesky UAC notifications, and it would allow you to install each individual Windows KB Update. It didn’t have that high RAM usage that the Aero design had. There was no built in firewall until a later service pack, but you could just opt out of that update.
Windows XP was the last good Windows.
I think you’re really only remembering XP after SP3. XP in its original form was clunky, buggy and unreliable.
It had zero bloat
Wait are you trying to be funny?
it encouraged you to use an admin account as your daily account.
This is bad. You should not do this, especially not on anything connected to the internet. You should definitely not do this on an XP system connected to the internet.
There was no built in firewall until a later service pack, but you could just opt out of that update.
I’ve eaten the onion, haven’t I?
we used to call Windows XP as “Windows Xtra Problems” back in the day
Someday we will find Windows 9.
Afraid not, because 7 8 9.
8.1 can be considered 9
Windows has been shit waaaaaaaaay longer than any of those. MS always “fixes” it afterwards just enough to become usable
To be fair, Windows has huge, maybe even unreasonable, demands placed on it for backward compatibility due to corps not wanting to dump their 30 year old legacy software. And to Microsoft’s credit, they actually manage to do that pretty well while maintaining a reasonably stable OS. Most of the time, anyway.
The increasing interest in using Windows as a conduit for ads and data collection is what they really chafes me and is the primary reason I’m slowly moving away from Windows.
And here I am with older games crashing all the time on newer windows.
Exactly that. 7 was fine. I got used to 10 with tweaks. 11 will never touch any device I own. Fuck everything they’ve done to Windows in recent years.
Windows was shitty after the superior WinXP. I’d argue 98 was all I needed but XP was when disk scanning/defragmenting was baked in.
Windows 10 will be the last version of windows
Introducing Windows 11
Liars.
Winbloats was arguably the first one of this list to get enshitiffied. I remember being a 12 yo trying to find an alternative to winbugs because the microsoft account login was required. It’s got worse since then
Yeah its the original example of enshittification for sure
I’ve been here since Windows 3.0. I’m not sure when this mythical not-shit Windows was. There were a few I could live with, but none that were good.
I remember Windows 3.11 as pretty decent.
But Windows is unique in that it can fit a whole lot of shit in it. Way more than one could imagine.
Minecraft, Chrome etc are a 7 litre compost caddy of shit. Windows is a vast open country waiting to be turned into landfill of human waste.
if you can manage to get the IOT LTSC windows 11, it has a ton of that stuff removed by default. it makes it much faster and saves drive space.
And it was bad long before then.
Oh enshittification is coming for Windows. In the future. Like it hasn’t happened yet or wasn’t the first and worst of these companies for it to come for. But something that hasn’t happened yet, not in the past. Interesting.
Windows was good until Vista … then it seemed every second version was a pile of shit (7 good, 8 crap, 10 ok, 11 ugh).
I personally like 11 more than 10, mostly because its same as 10 but with better UI. 10 was very bland.
For those wondering about what specifically happened with each:
Minecraft - microtransactions on Bedrock edition
Reddit - API changes killing 3rd party apps and streamlining ad delivery
Netflix - Pricing and library changes making it less and less of a good deal
Chrome - Manifest V3 killing uBlock Origin and similar content blockers
Windows - Increasing numbers of ads baked into the system, poorly-made features like Recall, and lack of hardware compatibility with the TPM 2.0 requirement
Thanks. I was legitimately confused by Minecraft because I never saw anything negative added to Java edition but I’ve never played Bedrock. Minecraft keeps pumping out free content updates so they seem like a good example of what to do for a company.
Additional stuff:
Reddit - becoming more and more like a typical social media website with profile customizations and instant messaging.
Netflix - ads and now only limited to one household.
Chrome - might be the bloatiest of all chromium based browsers
bedrock isn’t real
When did Minecraft get Enshittified?
Bedrock is pretty full of microtransactions, upsells, and ads, and the Mojang to Microsoft account migration for Java made a lot of people lose their accounts entirely.
But the core gameplay of both editions is still fine, and Java is consistently getting more mod-friendly with each release. You also don’t actually have to buy anything in Bedrock; it’s mostly just annoying.
I don’t really agree that Minecraft is getting enshittified, but I can see why others might.
And the whole chat censoring thing, and Microsoft doubling down on banning players on all servers for chat content in their own private servers.
bedrock was shit version from start, any respectable Minecraft player uses Java version.
I would also prefer to play on Java, however cross-platform support with Bedrock works really well. And that is actually quite the benefit. That way I can actually for once play a game with friends that are on other consoles or even on mobile.
Holup, they still continuing java version support?
Yep
You can avoid the transactions, but they really lure the kids in. I have to constantly tell my kid I’m not paying for that crap it’s exhausting
and the Mojang to Microsoft account migration for Java made a lot of people lose their accounts entirely.
Hey, it’s me. I contacted support and got a list of info they needed to fix it. I responded with that info and got a reply from a different person with a list of info they needed to fix it. I responded with that info and got a reply from a different person with a list of info they needed to fix it.
Then I said said “fuck this shit” and gave up to never play again.
EDIT: You probably guessed, but I should clarify that it was the same list of info, verbatim, each time. Just copy/paste response without reading that I’d already supplied it.
Windows was enshittified decades before it was even a concept. Grandaddy of enshittification.
gotta maintain that backwards compatible enshitification
when bedrock edition was introduced, I’d say
the marketplace, character creator and partnered servers all have very predatory monetization
thankfully java resisted enshittification for the most part
When they forced you to have a Microsoft account, which inturn made me loose my Minecraft account.
Can’t speak for OP, but I took a maybe ten-year hiatus from Minecraft and came back to find the were so baby more block types that it clogged my inventory and I felt overwhelmed and just stopped playing again.
Micro$oft made some controversies on Minecraft (Minecraft owned by M$)
What? Windows has sucked for like 20 years. Google turned to shit when they got rid of “don’t be evil”
I’m going to pretend using an enshitified version of this meme template was an intentional choice
NEFTLIX
Netflix happened before Reddit. Also, one could add Facebook and Amazon
And google (the search engine)
Tantacrul made an HBomb-length video about Facebook recently. Def worth a watch.
You missed YouTube
Wait, what happened to Minecraft? You’re just talking about the Bedrock edition, right?
…right?
I think it’s bedrock edition and the many cash grab spinoffs. Afaik og Minecraft is only better than it ever was.
Yeah that’s my experience so far. The only thing Microsoft has managed to ruin so far when it comes to Java edition is the launcher. Luckily there are many great FOSS launchers out there (Prism is my favorite). Everything else is working just fine, and the gameplay updates from the last couple of years have been good.
I can think of a couple more things, like forcing everyone to switch to a Microsoft account and the chat report system. Or the performance problems that were never truly addressed after 1.13. Even the combat update (1.9) I still don’t like.
But it’s certainly not ruined. As you mentioned, they still regularly update the game with cool features and new blocks, and many of the problems I mentioned can at least be fixed with mods. I would just like to see it fixed properly in the vanilla game.
+1 for Prism Launcher btw
Lol, this is hilarious. Thanks, Lemmy. It makes me feel better to know I’m not this far echo chambered. Good luck.
I had the same reaction. Enshittification came for Windows more than a decade ago, WTH are they thinking with this meme?
I just bought a brand new thumb drive so I can install Linux.
Why didn’t you just build your own thumb drive out of parts? It just takes a bit of soldering and W steady hand.
I suggest unbuntu or mint for your first. To get acclimated. Arch and others are cool, but they are intense. I run mint and I can play 99 percent of my old games on it through steam.
I went with Mint. Cinnamon edition. Get my feet wet with this. Slip deeper into the pool later maybe.
I don’t see a need to for myself. I went dual boot to make sure I could acclimate with my usage. The only thing that didn’t play well was my HP printer. Which isn’t a loss IMO.
