Donald Trump blamed Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy for the war between his country and Russia, even though it was Russia that invaded Ukraine and seeks to occupy its territory.
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This is so frustrating. This is “normal” logic for a Cluster B personality disorder. He’s being exactly what he is, Cluster B personality disorder, of the Narcissistic Personality Disorder variety.
Cluster B are deeply, and I mean deeply, sick individuals. It’s not uncommon to engage teen Borderlines in a residency program (where you essentially live in a place to receive daily therapy to help quell the dives into alternative realities, and, in their case, the self harm that often results from it), as one example. Intense therapy, which can really help, but you have to get the help.
Cluster B takes years of therapeutic work, as well as decades of therapeutic maintenance.
Trump? I don’t think he’s ever gotten help. Cluster B is the guy who says things like this. I don’t want to hurt you, but you’re making me hurt you, this is you, it’s all you, not me, you, you’re very sick. It’s not unusual, it’s expected. Expected. And yet he has a following instead of being ghosted when I’m pretty sure ghosting was originally invented, well before the inception of social media, in response to Cluster B.
Is it possible to cure cluster B? I don’t think narcissistic p disorder is?
I mean one of the base lines is a lack of empathy, and for what I know, that cannot be “cured”.
People like this should get help, but first and foremost they should never, ever, ever have the possibility to handle other people. In any way, even (or maybe especially) as parents. IMO.
This idea of treatable vs not treatable was and is controversial. People used to say personality disorders were incurable, but that’s crappy because they are treatable, if they’re willing to work on it. There are some poor souls that end up institutionalized, even with effort, there are no 100%s here.
A good way to think on it is like recovered alcoholics. The internal wiring for an alcoholic is forever changed such that if they engage in certain behaviors they’re going to fall down a really bad hole. And how easy it is to crawl back out again is highly individual but again, not necessarily a lost cause. Recovery and therapy is an ongoing process, per the individual, based on what is needed for the duration of their lives. Same deal with Cluster B personality disorders.
Trump is 80 years old. I don’t think it’s going to happen for him. It’s just an ongoing frustration to watch a Cluster B do his Cluster B thing and for anyone to then be shocked at more Cluster B behavior. It’s like a headline reading: Woah! This orange cat just meowed. What IS strange is that anyone walked into a Cluster B’s alternative reality of mental illness and ran with it for 8 yrs and hasn’t woken up from it yet.
We absolutely are dealing with mental illness here. Always have been. Hence the crushing exhaustion and head spinning of the last 8 years.
He’s looking disheveled. Even his makeup is raggedy lately. Generally not a good sign.
(Not all of cluster B lacks empathy, but it is a hallmark of NPD.)
Edit: yes, it’s most curious, and interesting (and horrible ofc) how so many people being confused so much and for so long. I wonder wath the aftermath will look like.
This is so frustrating. This is “normal” logic for a Cluster B personality disorder. He’s being exactly what he is, Cluster B personality disorder, of the Narcissistic Personality Disorder variety.
Cluster B are deeply, and I mean deeply, sick individuals. It’s not uncommon to engage teen Borderlines in a residency program (where you essentially live in a place to receive daily therapy to help quell the dives into alternative realities, and, in their case, the self harm that often results from it), as one example. Intense therapy, which can really help, but you have to get the help.
Cluster B takes years of therapeutic work, as well as decades of therapeutic maintenance.
Trump? I don’t think he’s ever gotten help. Cluster B is the guy who says things like this. I don’t want to hurt you, but you’re making me hurt you, this is you, it’s all you, not me, you, you’re very sick. It’s not unusual, it’s expected. Expected. And yet he has a following instead of being ghosted when I’m pretty sure ghosting was originally invented, well before the inception of social media, in response to Cluster B.
Is it possible to cure cluster B? I don’t think narcissistic p disorder is?
I mean one of the base lines is a lack of empathy, and for what I know, that cannot be “cured”.
People like this should get help, but first and foremost they should never, ever, ever have the possibility to handle other people. In any way, even (or maybe especially) as parents. IMO.
This idea of treatable vs not treatable was and is controversial. People used to say personality disorders were incurable, but that’s crappy because they are treatable, if they’re willing to work on it. There are some poor souls that end up institutionalized, even with effort, there are no 100%s here.
A good way to think on it is like recovered alcoholics. The internal wiring for an alcoholic is forever changed such that if they engage in certain behaviors they’re going to fall down a really bad hole. And how easy it is to crawl back out again is highly individual but again, not necessarily a lost cause. Recovery and therapy is an ongoing process, per the individual, based on what is needed for the duration of their lives. Same deal with Cluster B personality disorders.
Trump is 80 years old. I don’t think it’s going to happen for him. It’s just an ongoing frustration to watch a Cluster B do his Cluster B thing and for anyone to then be shocked at more Cluster B behavior. It’s like a headline reading: Woah! This orange cat just meowed. What IS strange is that anyone walked into a Cluster B’s alternative reality of mental illness and ran with it for 8 yrs and hasn’t woken up from it yet.
We absolutely are dealing with mental illness here. Always have been. Hence the crushing exhaustion and head spinning of the last 8 years.
He’s looking disheveled. Even his makeup is raggedy lately. Generally not a good sign.
(Not all of cluster B lacks empathy, but it is a hallmark of NPD.)
Very good points, and thanks for the info!
Edit: yes, it’s most curious, and interesting (and horrible ofc) how so many people being confused so much and for so long. I wonder wath the aftermath will look like.