• usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.mlOP
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      Low numbers =/= full ban

      Read the link and look at what they are asking for. They’re asking for a designation change to make the process simpler/easier for gaza refugees

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      That would require them being capable of critical thinking, and anyone willing to vote third party clearly lacks in that department.

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      Last time I checked on those people they claimed Trump would be completely pro Palestinian and everyone who didn’t see this true true was stupid. Didn’t know they jumped right to jUsT As BaD.

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      The people who claim that are campaigning for trump.

      Some because they like him. Some because they are accelerationist motherfuckers that want to see the world burn. Some because they are useful idiots.

      But they are all spreading lies in service of Trump.

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      Yeah, well some people draw the line at voting for genocide you heartless monster!!!

      There is no logic. Best case scenario? They are a stupid and emotional child who is doing nothing for the Palestinian people. More likely? They just want to feel morally superior while justifying their own lack of critical thought. And a few are just straight up tankies trying to destabilize The West in the name of china and russia.

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      Basically his ideas are automatically the good ideas, and since Harris isn’t gonna do the exact same thing as him that means she’ll be bad. Same logic in saying she’ll be bad for Israel, the southern border, etc.

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    Yeah, those goddamned refugees better not return to the land they had taken from them just now!

    Edit: Ahh I realize I misinterpreted the title. W/e, Trump would be dumb enough to say something like that so I stand by what I said.

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    One thing that I always appreciate about trump is his ineptitude. His actions, despite being a cancer on society, are sloppy half-measures at best. It’s something to be thankful for- his father imbuing complete confidence into his idiot, bigot son.

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    Is Biden currently allowing them?

    I know he’s announced he’d “look into it” but I don’t think he’s ever let any in for the last year.

    It’s just a concept of the potential for empathy for the victims of a genocide…

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      Research options on helping Palestinian refugees is just as bad as outright banning them along with other Muslums from entering the country… thanks for clearing that up…

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        It’s been a year…

        What exactly needs to be “looked into”?

        Like, you’re mad trump says he’ll do this…

        But not mad that it’s currently happening right now?

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            and at the people that try to gaslight that the Democrats are worse, for whatever reason.

            No one is saying they’re worse, just that “better than trump” is still supporting a genocide, refusing refugees and cutting off valid humanitarian aid based on propaganda from the genociders and not undoing it…

            if you think Trump is better for the Palestinian people.

            Again, no one is saying he would be…

            Just that Biden is illegally supporting a genocide and if he had an R by his name other people would demand he face consequences and the US stops supporting a genocide.

            You’re literally inventing a strawman to be mad at…

            Which we all give Vance shit for…

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              Well no we are also demanding that the current admin stop and face consequences for its action. We just know that Republicans would gleefully do worse and anyone pretending that is not the case is operating with a malign agenda. Its pretty straight forward.

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                Thank you for jumping in with a bit of a different but reasonable perspective. I’m not sure why I even stepped into this cesspool.

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                Well no we are also demanding that the current admin stop and face consequences for its action

                Does that “we” include Harris or any Dem not named Sanders, Talib, or AOC?

                We just know that Republicans would gleefully do worse and anyone pretending that is not the case is operating with a malign agenda

                It’s weird I have to keep saying this:

                Literally no one is saying that Trump wouldn’t be worse here…

                I’m saying if you think trump is so bad that we can’t criticize Biden for breaking multiple US and international laws to support a genocide and remove aid from it’s victims…

                You’re still supporting a genocide

                You can say genocide is unacceptable and trump is unacceptable. Especially since Biden isn’t even the nominee anymore.

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              Look, fuck Netanyahu and fuck Hamas for starting all of this. It is cold and heartless to a degree yes, but there are political nuances that you clearly don’t care about. I’d rather do everything we can within the current political reality than be right like Jimmy Carter and for the Dems to basically lose all political agency for the next decade plus. Right now I am lucky enough to say that and be so caulous. I hope my family and I can still do so after the inauguration in January. I hope we don’t have our own concentration camps of immigrants in our backyards.

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                Hamas didn’t exist in the 1800s, they didnt start this. But I am glad you “people” finally admit you have no empathy or think of people outside yourself; I was getting tired of hearing the lie that liberals are more caring than other conservatives

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                  No one called themselves Palestinians back in the 1800s in the Ottoman Empire either. But yeah man, you got me dead to rights. Great Job.

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                It is cold and heartless to a degree yes, but there are political nuances that you clearly don’t care about.

                So you’re saying that because trump exists…

                We can’t criticize Biden for breaking multiple US and international laws to support a genocide and removing aid from it’s victims?

                You do you I guess…

                But I dont have time for people who think genocide is acceptable under any circumstances

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                  The first and foremost rule of first aid is to ensure your own safety first. Same rule applies here. Hope your righteousness doesn’t bite you in the ass, I truly do.