He doesn’t give a shit about justice.

It is just a matter of waiting until the epstein stuff dies down and hitting right before trump can potentially have the government stop it.

Are you the lemmy cops? Is it your responsibility to chase any link to someone’s website across every instance and make sure people know they are a bit of a jackass?

If you think GoL should be a banned source, take it up with the various moderators. If you think only primary sources should be allowed (which I actually agree with), that is also a discussion to be had.

But rushing in to berate people for linking to one of the most popular news aggregators for a story that people would be interested in because you don’t like the guy who owns that site? All you are doing is discouraging people from making posts in the future.

Which is the problem with dragging community/subreddit drama everywhere you go. It just makes the site a much more hostile place for everyone. And we really aren’t big enough to be doing that.

I really don’t see a need to drag community drama everywhere. GoL is one of the biggest aggregator blogs out there for… linux gaming. Whether we should prioritize original sources over aggregators is a different discussion.

But yeah. Liam is great for news aggregating but he is 100% the stereotypical linux gamer and has a long history of starting random shit. Still annoyed by how fast he got everyone to shit on the Duckstation devs because they didn’t want to be exploited.

There was definitely physical intimidation at play in 2020.

But it was also following the summer of 2020 where the chuds realized they were scared little chickenshits. I still have a lot of family in Philly and got to watch some great videos of the locals standing up and scaring off the chuds.

And the other aspect is vote by mail and early voting. The demographics who were queuing on election day tended to be the ones they didn’t want to suppress.

The architect of the series who was actively involved collected plans and notes into a lore bible over 10 years ago.

You are arguing semantics.

The meme sub. Where people intentionally try to make jokes and antagonize each other?

There are many shades of tankies.

The hardcore Hasan fans (and, probably Hasan himself) are generally good folk with strong leftist ideals who drink a bit too much of the kool-aid and have a tendency to be useful idiots who spew blatant pro-russian propaganda (remember the first few days of the war in Ukraine? I sure do). But when someone they know/“know” cares about them is saying something? They listen.

Hexbear and lemmygrad are full of the kind of tankies who manipulate THOSE tankies. The ones who are gleeful to spew pro-russian propaganda because it proves they are REALLY leftist… or because they are literally paid to do so.

I am an AAPI. I already know no candidate gives a shit about me. Hell, it says something when frigging Yang seemed palatable for like… five minutes. And with the way geopolitics is shaking up? If you thought the anti-asian hate was bad during the lockdown parts of COVID, just wait until we are in a cold war gone lukewarm against china like we are with russia.

And that is why a lot of AAPI folk kind of go right wing. They, like their parents, decide it is easier to try to ingratiate themselves wit hteh white supremacists than to show solidarity. But the rest of us? We rapidly learn that there IS no solidarity with us because we are “model minorities” and get told to shut the fuck up when more important minorities are being discriminated against.

But also? That isn’t the only issue. There are AAPI women and AAPI lgbtq+ folk and so forth. And thus, you actually look at the issues and vote in your interests even if neither party really gives a shit. Because you have more than one issue (and, even that, one party is still a lot less shitty)

So if “Well… neither is great but one is a whole lot worse in these very concrete ways” isn’t working?

You get a celebrity influencer to say it. Like Sanders.

Generally speaking, people AREN’T saying “vote with us or else you’re a piece of shit” to anyone who is (good faith) complaining about Biden’s horrendous record on genocide and Kamala being unlikely to be much better. We almost always point out "Yeah… it sucks. But do you think trump will be any better? and get responses along the lines of “WELL I WON’T VOTE FOR GENOCIDE!! THAT IS MY LINE!!!”

It has nothing to do with the way the message was said and pretending otherwise is an active insult to everyone who gives a shit.

The only reason this MIGHT make a dent is because it is Bernie Sanders. The guy who opened a lot of people’s minds to the reality that there is something better than late stage capitalism and beltway liberals.

People have been doing exactly that since back when we were trying to somehow get Biden to win.

The message isn’t the thing. It is the speaker. Because even the tankiest of tankies are going to be wary of insulting Sanders in front of their audience. And this is why celebrity endorsements matter.

I am just going to say this one more time because I am quite certain you aren’t reading anything:

Explanation, not excuse.

What you listed is an explanation. That explains WHY people are assholes. That does not excuse them being an asshole. And it is incredibly important to understand that.

Because excusing the pure evil of what a “side of the aisle” is doing in favor of “coming together”? That is how we got into this fucking mess. We refused to actually codify abortion rights because we didn’t want to anger people and, as a result, roughly half the country lost basic human rights while they were eating lunch. We try to compromise on people’s fundamental right to exist which leads to the stupidity of “I guess I’ll only breathe every other day?”

Understand where people came from. Do not excuse the fucking evil they did. Because if the only way they will oppose outright fucking evil is if you give them a handy? Fuck 'em. They are monsters who will never actually concede and just want to force you to concede.

Because

Low taxes for me, high for thee. Government spending on me, none for thee. Deregulation for me, suffocating anti-competitive requirements for thee

sounds like an evil mother fucker to me. And you yourself acknowledge

You can convince a narcissist that you are on their side, and that helping you helps them. This will only last as long as you are on their side.

Any compromise with them is just enabling them. Explain to them why they are wrong. Point out what the magats are doing to them. But fuck any concessions. We did that for decades and just lose and lose and lose.

Yes. Explanation, not excuse.

It is still very much their fault. Because, as the various internet atheists (self included) love to point out: Most of their hate and bigotry is outright against the bible. So even in their echo chambers they had opportunities to think for themselves.

And yes, win hearts and minds. Hell, keep doing that after Tuesday because we are definitely looking at chaos for months. But NEVER excuse the hatred and bigotry. They are wrong. Their being wrong has actively stolen basic human rights from roughly half the country and their being wrong is working to steal human rights from even more people.

Being brainwashed and indoctrinated is an explanation, not an excuse.

They are still causing harm and they are still at fault for that. We can just understand how they got that way.

Because the average person isn’t watching the news. They aren’t buying newspapers.

And of the two ends of the spectrum? Leftists are very much in the 90s Talk Radio stage of things where “Wow, this person has some great ideas and I am glad I can hear such a left leaning viewpoint. OOH!! This person is best friends with putin and is going to explain to me why the US are really the villains in every war on earth” just with Twitch instead of AM radio.

So if a “mainstream news media” outlet wants to survive? They have to at least avoid alienating those right wing fascists.

He is paying for lawyers to prevent him from ever seeing any consequences. That is a “fine”

Like, seriously, are these people new here?

It would, bare minimum, let people know the equivalent of “if you come for the king you better not miss”

But getting an injunction for something as blatant as this would be a day or two in front of a judge, at most.

This is reddit. Gotta ignore someone’s post to make a pointless correction that they already addressed but much more aggressively.

The alternative is, Erastil forbid, a conversation.

1. I don’t think you know what the word “gaslight(ing)” means
2. If people actually cared about the Palestinians they would advocate for harm reduction and any hope for them rather than all but guaranteeing their eradication under trump. It is a very slim chance but there is hope that the Kamala administration will at least give israel fewer bombs or demand they be used for things that benefit US interests (like attacking iran) rather than cheering on the genocide.

But, to elaborate, the Palestinians have a long history of mostly beiing a political tool. In the past, when there were chances to evacuate them as refugees, the majority of neighboring countries actively refused (ironically citing fears of Hamas led insurrections). But when it is a way to bleed resources out of israel they suddenly are all humanitarians.

And considering how many prominent mouthpieces are, at best, useful idiots for the tankies? It is hard to believe that suddenly, after everyone discovered Palestine existed on October 8th, that is truly the greatest issue facing the planet (especially when other active genocides are still ignored).

Good on Sanders. It feels like he always has to be dragged kicking and screaming to support the party (and likely would be even more influential if he just played the game) but he is a voice that people might listen to.

That said: It is important to remember that the majority of the “No, I want support genocide LA LA LA LA LA LA LA” crowd either listen to or are tankies that are, at best, useful idiots for putin et al. They don’t care about Palestine and they sure as hell don’t care about anyone else that trump et al will genocide if elected.