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  • Demigodrick@lemmy.ziptoLemmy.World Announcements@lemmy.worldLemmy World outages
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    1 year ago

    While I appreciate that, the issues caused by lemmy.world to many other admins can be monumental. If the instance goes down, it causes many people to wonder why federation has stopped working, despite the fact the home server is fine. All that content in one place is not only against the point of federation, its a risk to the existence of lemmy if the owner just decided to walk away tomorrow. While im sure he wont, and im sure many users would try to recreate or move communities elsewhere if he did, a large core percentage of lemmy wouldnt come back, and that is the risk.

    As I said, I sympathise with their technical issues, hell this instance has had hours of downtime because of SQL queries, but claiming they aren’t too big is not a valid response. Just because imbalanced instances happens elsewhere doesn’t mean it isn’t an issue here, especially because of the problems with the back end.

    Their refusal to acknowledge the complete imbalance, or to do anything about it, is IMO an actual problem for lemmy.

    Ps it’s OK to disagree with me, but I’d rather people explain why than just downvote. Can’t have a proper discussion with a downvote.


  • Ah no, sorry, while I sympathise with your technical issues, the rest of your post is disingenuous at best.

    Lemmy.world being too big is bad for Lemmy as a product/software/“brand” etc - your downtime, being the instance most people link to, is a LOT of people’s first impression and when it spends time being down, people associate THAT downtime with Lemmy, and not the hundreds of other instances that don’t have downtime.

    The issue isn’t even about you being the biggest instance, its the absolute imbalance in both users and communities on one instance and you willingly allowing it continue. If you genuinely cared about Lemmy, you would close registrations now.

    You have enough “technical” people to build your own instance from the source code with that change for the banner built in (and you could go ahead and submit the PR/Issue anyway), but you haven’t - instead placing the blame on the developers. Hell, you only made the PR 5 hours ago after weeks of other admins asking you to close the instance.

    You could even make the simple change to the sign up link instead lead to join-lemmy, but for whatever reason you want to continue to be the biggest instance and don’t care about the wider lemmy ecosystem and the effect that it has.






  • This has definitely been a problem with communities being created on the bigger instances and not utilising smaller instances. Happy for someone to say I’m wrong etc, but I think there would be merit in capping instances to x number of users or communities, to force the user base to spread out.

    Also, the way signups work, (ie you find a community you like then click sign up but that signs you up to that instance), further exacerbates the issue and the confusion around how federation works. The sign up links on each instance should lead either to a page with an instance finder, or to a random instance that matches the profile of, and is already federated with, the instance you were on. Otherwise the larger instances have a monopoly and are just going to lead to a bad user experience when they can’t cope with the traffic.

    It’s a self defeating prophecy if users only want to sign up to the instances with the big communities, because then everyone is going to keep creating communities there and nobody is going to want to join a smaller instance.

    I might be talking nonsense and am happy to be told why that is all wrong :)