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But, like, what happened?
I got there in the end
You can’t silence the power of rap.
That’s… Weird.
It’s because of how the generative models are created and how they’re censored.
At it’s basic level, what a generative model does is take input data, break it into pieces, assign values to those bits based on neighbouring bits. It creates a model of which words are used together frequently in which context.
But that kind of model isn’t human-readable, it’s a giant multi-dimensional cloud of numbers and connections, not actual code. You can change the inputs used to create the model, but that means you have to manually filter all the inputs and that’s not realistic either and will probably skew your model, possibly into uselessness.
So, you have to either censor the input or the output. You don’t usually want to censor input, because there are all sorts of non-damaging questions to ask about Tiananmen square, and its very easy to dodge. So, you censor the output instead, that’s the “harm” after all.
You let the model generate a reply and then go see if it uses certain terms or specific bits of info and remove them, replacing it with a canned reply.
Which means we don’t have to trick the generative model, just the post-fact filter. And since generative models can be persuaded to change their style and form (sometimes into less-readable, more prosaic, less defined terms), it becomes very very hard to censor it effectively.
I know. I’m just saying that the rap is weird.
FUCK.
I like how the events need scholarly research
They do
BUT NOT LIKE THAT 👁️👁️
Sounds like the average lemmy.ml user. Very quick to criticise the west. Completely ‘objective’ when discussing China.
And very, VERY fond of genocide denial and whataboutism. They’re exhausting to talk to.
I can’t speak to lemmy.ml but I can say despite having a lot of issues with China I also find it difficult to criticize because I never lived there or anywhere similar but criticizing and noting where the US can improve is something I’ve spent a lot of time to understand the nuances and challenges of.
It’s not that I want to defend China just that I feel like I never have a great picture of what’s happening there.
All this being said fuck them for their treatment of uighur muslims. That I do feel confident about.
It’s not that they don’t criticise, it’s that when something negative shows up, they defend it showing several biased sources, as if they meant anything, or jump into whataboutism.
Whenever someone posts something negative and promotes discussion or critique about it, lo and behold, see how this other country is also horrible and see the good things mine does. Like dude, cool, let us discuss this and you can create another post for those things. It’s pretty clear that they want to divert the conversation.
What is wrong with the Taiwanese government?
No surprises there…
What happens if you challenge it? Like “no it’s not, Taiwan is a sovereign country separate from China”
I’d imagine if the user was in China, it’d be an automatic deduction of social credit score, or a visit from the secret police.
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What is the chinese AI? I wanna play with it lol
It’s the Qwen14b model
AlibabAi
I don’t think anyone is surprised, I feel like anyone who criticizes the government there has a very legitimate threat of getting disappeared.
I wouldn’t say I was surprised exactly, but it’s wild to see it laid out in front of me so blatantly like that.
Call it a 426. It’s Taiwanese number slang for “fucking mainlander”
Can you explain the context lol that’s hilarious to me for some reason
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Just wait until AI starts rewriting history, changing historical facts, and purposely misinforms people.
It’s only a matter if time before AI will deny the Holocaust, Black slaves in the US, and the numerous African genocides.
The Google chatbot is already doing just that.
Not just that, remember it’s just an LLM. It quantifies which tokens (or words and letters, if you will) come up next. It doesn’t matter if it’s factual or fictional - if it’s good enough, it does that.
LLMs are very confident in lying. I once asked it if there is a magic method to catch magic method calls in PHP - it told me its
__magic. Lo and behold, there is and never was such a method. That’s my first and last time I tried it, and there ain’t gonna be a second time in the near future.Haha, just what happens when you create AI that exists in a fantasy world. You get fantastic (as in fantasy) results.
Cough 1989 Tiananmen Square protests and massacre cough
Chinese AI bot says “what”?
Your computer just explodes killing you instantly.
What a tragic accident…
That’s the Russian chatbot.
State media would report that a man using his computer suddenly fell to his death from the roof of his appartment. Neighbors say the man didn’t live in an apartment. 🤷♂️
In Russia, Apartments fall on you
In Russia, windows fall out of you
Have you noticed how the modern AI models absolutely tow the line of its creators? Just like this example, there’s another one where an image generator refuses to generate the image of Mickey Mouse from Steamboat Willie, even though its copyright expired recently. The same model has no problem violating the copyrights of independent artists.
And while these models can strictly refuse to avoid what its creators don’t want it to do, they fail at basic prompts like ‘show a black doctor’. These models are pathologically rife with biases from its creators.
Thus far, AI seems to be a technology that will only help channel more wealth into the pockets of the rich, unfortunately.
Bias? In my AI Model?
It’s more likely than you thinkIt’s just your imagination, citizen, now go back to workI asked my Perplexity AI and it was pretty fair:
The Chinese government faces criticism for various reasons, including its disregard for human rights, suppression of dissent, and lack of political freedoms. Reports highlight abuses such as restrictions on religious freedom, persecution of ethnic minorities like the Uyghurs and Tibetans, censorship of media and online content, forced labor practices, and erosion of autonomy in regions like Hong Kong. The government’s actions have led to negative perceptions globally and increased scrutiny from international actors who have imposed sanctions to address human rights violations. Despite China’s economic growth, concerns persist about the government’s authoritarian control, lack of transparency, and repression of fundamental freedoms[2][3][4].
Americans often associate China with its government’s policies, human rights issues, economy, and political system rather than its people or culture. Negative views towards China have intensified in recent years, with a majority expressing cold feelings towards the country[5].
Sources [1] What the West Gets Wrong About China https://hbr.org/2021/05/what-the-west-gets-wrong-about-china [2] China’s Disregard for Human Rights - United States Department of State https://2017-2021.state.gov/chinas-disregard-for-human-rights/ [3] World Report 2020: Rights Trends in China’s Global Threat to Human Rights https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2020/country-chapters/global [4] World Report 2022: Rights Trends in China https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2022/country-chapters/china-and-tibet [5] Most Americans Have ‘Cold’ Views of China. Here’s What They Think About China, In Their Own Words https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2021/06/30/most-americans-have-cold-views-of-china-heres-what-they-think-about-china-in-their-own-words/
By Perplexity at https://www.perplexity.ai/search/What-is-wrong-hDrC4QixT5enDDZxxZ2ODw
Criticism of the United States government includes concerns about political dysfunction, corruption, lack of oversight for presidents, and dissatisfaction with politicians and political leaders. Specific criticisms encompass issues such as partisan fighting, high campaign costs, and the influence of special interest groups and lobbyists. Additionally, there are concerns about the lack of credibility and trust in politicians, with many Americans highlighting greed, corruption, dishonesty, and self-serving agendas as major problems within the political system[1][2][3][4].
Americans have expressed frustration with the government’s performance, with dissatisfaction levels consistently high over the years. The public perceives a disconnect between political leaders and ordinary citizens, leading to a sense that the political system is broken and fails to represent the people effectively. These sentiments have been exacerbated by factors like polarization, distrust in government institutions, and a perceived inability to address pressing issues facing the nation[2][3][4].
Sources [1] Criticism of the United States government - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_United_States_government [2] Government Remains Americans’ Top Problem in 2022 https://news.gallup.com/poll/406739/government-remains-americans-top-problem-2022.aspx [3] American democracy is cracking. These forces help explain why. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/08/18/american-democracy-political-system-failures/ [4] 1. The biggest problems and greatest strengths of the U.S. political system https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/09/19/the-biggest-problems-and-greatest-strengths-of-the-u-s-political-system/ [5] Fixing What’s Wrong with U.S. Politics https://hbr.org/2012/03/fixing-whats-wrong-with-us-politics
By Perplexity at https://www.perplexity.ai/search/What-is-wrong-hDrC4QixT5enDDZxxZ2ODw
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I keep trying to click but I get SSL_ERROR_RX_RECORD_TOO_LONG on all lemmy.today links and malwarebytes thinks the site is compromised (and has for at least weeks if not months). Hrm.
I mean, have you used American ai? It has similar problems, I don’t know why you’re surprised
Yes yes america let’s you criticize its political parties because it stops you from criticizing the actual system of government itself. The duel party system is a means of distracting people from actual flaws inherent to liberalism and capitalism etc etc
I’ll admit tho chatgpt is aight when it comes to critiques of capitalism. Not perfect but aight
The American system has problems that the founders did not forsee or wouldn’t want to acknowledge, but when other democratic countries are met with such issues they tend to rewrite their constitution (or corresponding legal documents) while America just stands by it’s flaws. Something that, again, is a feature of the flawed system the framers of the constitution either didn’t see or didn’t want to see.
I don’t think things were intended to be so difficult to change in the US that the system grinds to a halt, but at the same time the constitution is obviously written to slow change down.
This said I still think it’s a preferable system to more authoritarian ones. Nowhere near perfect though. Could be way more democratic.
I’m sure chatGPT will be thrilled to have your approval
That was quite the pivot
But weren’t you the one that said “AmErIcAn aI hAs SimILaR iSsUEs”?
Propaganda model, double think, countless wars of aggression, disenfranchisement, now sliding into theocratic fascism. Looking down on China is part of it. They can’t see their own prison - therefor you must be wrong :D
stops you from criticizing the actual system of government itself.
You can tell how true this is because the swat team that descended from a helicopter to stop you from posting this critique of the american government stopped you from making a critique of the american government.
LOL at the lemmy.ml user defending the Chinese again…
The joke is Chinese AI has to not go into detail on Chinese government because Chinese government
I got that, I just didn’t find it surprising I guess. Every government limits criticism yk?
No, they do not.
Well everyone government does to some extent, some more than others
Anything to jerk off the CCP, right? And I’ll bet they don’t even pay you.
False.
In this case it’s not a problem, but a feature.
