Over the weekend, at least 82 Palestinians were killed in Israeli strikes on Jabaliya refugee camp, including multiple United Nations schools sheltering Palestinians. At least 85 incidents of Israeli bombing have impacted 67 facilities run by the United Nations relief agency for Palestine refugees (UNRWA) in the last two months. We speak with Tamara Alrifai, spokesperson for UNRWA, about the organization sheltering close to a million Palestinians from Israel’s assault, which has killed 104 of her colleagues since the beginning of the war — the highest number of United Nations aid workers killed in a conflict in the history of the United Nations. Alrifai says her agency is only getting half of the fuel they need to serve people in Gaza, being forced to choose between clean water, food and transport. “If UNRWA ceases to exist tomorrow, then there is a huge layer of stabilizing and stability that UNRWA usually offers in a very, very volatile area that also collapses.”

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    Why is the IDF still relying on bombing and artillery strike to stop Hamas if it’s proven it causes such high civilian casualties?

    You’re funded and supplied by the largest military industrial complex in the world and its allies and you’re telling me you can’t get troops on the ground to rescue hostages?

    It almost seems intentional at this point and if they keep this up, between them blowing the shit out of Gaza and Hamas executing/torturing hostages, there won’t be anyone left to rescue.

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      The main reason is because they already learned from the United States that going into combat in dense cities doesn’t work when you’re the one attacking. They care more about their own lives than the lives of innocent people.

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      They see every Palestinian baby as a terrorist. They have manufactured their justification for slaughtering children.

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      IDF’s objective is to inflict as much violence/barbarism/terror as they can so that 2.1 million people vacate their land. And it is precisely what they are doing. Hostages are not even a real objective at this point. Source: IDF commanders/ Israeli ministers/TV channels

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    Israel is occupying Gaza and controls Gaza’s water supply, electricity, and borders. Gaza (and the West Bank) have Israeli cameras everywhere, using facial recognition software to create profiles for basically every single citizen. If you think Israel is going after Hamas but jUSt CaN’T fiNd TheM you’re falling for the sleight of hand, and in this case especially, if you’re not actively supporting the oppressed (at least by speaking out against injustice) then you’re actively supporting the oppressor.

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    A reminder that the number one priority of this “war” for Israrl is to eliminate Hamas(while laying waste to Gaza, making it inhabitable), while the hostage is second. The longer they drag the likelier the hostages is gonna end up dead, and Netanyahu is complicit on their death.

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          unlike what you see here…
          what you see here is propaganda.

          Propaganda for better solutions that don’t involve bombing city blocks because one gang thug had an RPG outside a hospital.

          Maybe I am not comfortable with Israel’s aim

          Maybe I am not comfortable with killing children and teenagers for the sins of a gang of thugs.

          Maybe I am not comfortable with killing civilians if it is going to lead to a broader war.

          Either way, what really irks me, is that everyone is okay with it. If this happened in any other place in the world, we would be clawing bloody murder, but because it happens in un-wealthy Gaza. I am a propagandist?

          Guess it’s okay to kill kids so long as they are poor and (possibly) Muslim? What kind of propaganda are you spewing?

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            @HuddaBudda

            @stopthatgirl7 @Annoyed_Crabby @OurTragicUniverse\

            i will keep saying this until i am dead… war is terrible. you don’t like it? then don’t get in one. when a group locates legitimate targets among civilians and human shields, THAT IS THE WAR CRIME HERE. you deal with that by attacking anyway and demonstrate to the enemy that tactic does not work and will not be tolerated. you want to get mad? then direct the anger where its deserved. at the group which purposely uses their own people as propaganda by using them as human shields and crying about civilian deaths.

            the situation is beyond the point of tiptoeing around world opinion and rose-colored glasses wearing people like you. any org that employs the tactics hamas has used should be wiped out. period. i said the same thing about the taliban years ago and i’ll say it again.
            what you see is what happens in war. civilians die. don’t like it? then do whatever you have to in order to avoid it.

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              you deal with that by attacking anyway and demonstrate to the enemy that tactic does not work and will not be tolerated.

              And when that doesn’t work you do it again
              and again
              and again
              and again
              and again

              Because it’s more important to demonstrate that you absolutely will kill innocents who have been put in harm’s way in order to show Hamas (and the rest of the world) exactly what your version of justice looks like than it is to try something different.

              And we’re paying attention, I can promise you that.

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                @be_excellent_to_each_other
                no. its a demonstration that the tactics of terrorists will not be a deterrent. what will paying ransoms to hostage takers get you? more hostages. what will not attacking targets with human shields get you? more human shields. you fucking people don’t seem to realize you are justifying and enabling those actions. its not justice. its war. justice would be prosecuting the terrorists. terrorists ARE NOT SOLDIERS. hamas ARE NOT SOLDIERS. people need to get that through their collective heads.

                @stopthatgirl7 @Annoyed_Crabby @OurTragicUniverse @HuddaBudda

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                  what will not attacking targets with human shields get you? more human shields.

                  You know what attacking targets with “human shields” gets you? More dead innocent people. Try not to forget the “human” part of that word.

                  Edit: Gonna start adding this article to a lot of my replies on this topic. More people should read this and encourage this kind of future. When I figure out what sub it belongs in, I’ll post it as a thread there.

                  https://lifeisasacredtext.substack.com/p/hand-in-hand

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              legitimate targets among civilians and human shields, THAT IS THE WAR CRIME HERE.

              Like when Israel bombed a refugee camp to get a single Hamas Leader?

              Oh, maybe you meant when Hamas targeted the preschools on Oct 7?

              There are no saints in this war.

              you deal with that by attacking anyway and demonstrate to the enemy that tactic does not work and will not be tolerated.

              Hamas, seems to be doing fine, it’s the people of Gaza that have to take the hits. Also not a warm idea for the hostages you’ve doomed to death.

              the situation is beyond the point of tiptoeing around world opinion and rose-colored glasses wearing people like you.

              Empathy, the word you are looking for is called Empathy.

              any org that employs the tactics hamas has used should be wiped out.

              Agreed, use better tactics, aim, and FFS stop hitting the children.

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                @HuddaBudda
                hmm. spoken by someone that shows zero understanding of the real world. “Like when Israel bombed a refugee camp to get a single Hamas Leader?”-----yes. exactly that.

                “Oh, maybe you meant when Hamas targeted the preschools on Oct 7?”
                “Empathy, the word you are looking for is called Empathy”

                do you have empathy for those killed on oct 7? do you have empathy for those crammed in shelters due to indiscriminate or blatant attacks on civilians by hamas? while their rockets may not be precision accurate, the ballistic characteristics alone offer enough accuracy to avoid them dropping in the middle of population centers in israel. do you have empathy for that?

                empathy goes out the window after what happened oct 7. i watched the twin towers fall on 9/11 in new york. there was no talk of empathy. from anyone. but i heard a few comments about the world needing a reminder of what a nuke can do.

                we are beyond empathy here. eliminating hamas and their underground infrastructure requires the tactics israel is using. THAT IS WAR. you want to talk empathy? have at it. civilians always lose in war. but don’t talk like israel is the unholy offender here. hamas deserves what they are getting and palestinians need to oust hamas themselves to get my empathy. the video of them dancing in the streets the day after 9/11 tells me all i need to know about them.

                @stopthatgirl7 @Annoyed_Crabby @OurTragicUniverse

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                  do you have empathy for those killed on oct 7? do you have empathy for those crammed in shelters due to indiscriminate or blatant attacks on civilians by hamas? while their rockets may not be precision accurate, the ballistic characteristics alone offer enough accuracy to avoid them dropping in the middle of population centers in israel. do you have empathy for that?

                  We call this multi-tasking, but yes. Generally one can feel empathy for more then one party, it isn’t a zero sum game.

                  empathy goes out the window after what happened oct 7. i watched the twin towers fall on 9/11 in new york. there was no talk of empathy. from anyone. but i heard a few comments about the world needing a reminder of what a nuke can do.

                  It is a shame people only watched our rage, and didn’t learn the lesson 10 trillion dollars later, and all our hard work evaporating in 3 days.

                  Hypocrite that I am, fool I am not. Learn from our mistakes or be doomed to repeat them.

                  we are beyond empathy here. eliminating hamas and their underground infrastructure requires the tactics israel is using.

                  I disagree, there are better methods, more informed methods, safer methods for sure, if we thought about this any other way beside treating bombs like magic pixie dust that makes problems disappear.

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                  Lol love hearing jackasses say “you don’t understand the real world” when it’s actually them that doesn’t understand the real world and as an excuse to justify a genocide.

                  When the US took out Osama, it didn’t do it with bombs. It was with special forces. Same is needed here.

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          I just want to point out that amidst all the death and destruction, you’re problem is how people are using a word. What can be more bad faith than ignoring the reality and fighting over the signifier?

          Words are not reality; you cannot drive home in the word “car”.

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            Words explain ideas, improper definitions lead to miscommunications. Words matter and changing definitions has always been a sign of an attempt to smuggle ideas in.

            “Genocide” used to mean a concerted attempt to actively exterminate a group of people based on their race. Now it just means “anything that disrupts local culture.” It’s like watering down the word “murder” to mean “physical assault.” It’s not that assaulting people is ok, it’s that it’s not murder.

            “Words don’t matter” is some of the most smooth brain bullshit I’ve ever seen, as if our entire conceptualization of ideas isn’t rooted in what words we use to define them.

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      Every dead hostage is another propaganda victory for Israel. While Hamas will truthfully say that the hostage died due to an airstrike, Israel can just blame Hamas for killing the hostage.

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        Why do you take the word of genocidal religious terrorists at face value? You just assume they’re telling the truth? Strange, especially considering they’d kill you without a second thought just on your username alone.

        You might as well go support fundamentalist Christian Republicans and take their word without evidence.

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          Why do you take the word of genocidal religious terrorists at face value?

          I can ask you the same thing about your support for Israel and believing all their lies lol

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    Fuck you, Israel.

    As an aside, I’m reading an interesting book called The Origins of Satan. It was onscreen being read in an ep of Sopranos (Janice) and I looked up reviews and it sounded interesting. Very interesting historical context about judasim c. 1st century on early christianity. Fwiw, I’m an atheist. This is still one of the best books I’ve read this year. I’m learning a lot.

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    There are better ways to eliminate humus. Like banning it from the grocery stores. All this death and destruction over a condiment is INSANE.

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      Down voters don’t understand how easy it is to make their own. Chickpeas, Sesame paste, Garlic, and Olive oil. No need to downvote banning of hummus. Losers!