Android isn’t cool with teenagers, and that’s a big problem::Nearly 9 in 10 US teenagers use an iPhone, spelling disaster for Google’s mobile future

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    Honestly, it’s a way bigger problem that kids are being indoctrinated into “keeping up with the Joneses” as such a young age.

    We’ve officially made children part of the Conspicuous Consumption game and motherfucker, they don’t have money, it’s their parents money!

    It’s sickening and will fuck their finances their whole lives if having the best iPhone is more important than being able to put food on your plate.

    I’m way the fuck more worried about these kids indoctrinated into a Capitalist hell-hole more than I am about fucking Android.

    If our democratic future is banking on these kids saving us, and they’re already rooted firmly up a corporations asshole, we’re fucked.

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      Nothing is new here.

      This isn’t that different from when I was a kid twenty years ago. Only instead of phones (though we all had phones back then too, even if they weren’t smart), it was game consoles, or Pokémon cards, or beanie babies or whatever.

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          Assuming a new iPhone every 2 years, that’s still pretty on par with historical premiums that would be being paid in the same timeframe for the “in” clothing brands. Designer jeans and Lululemons come to mind.

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          Yeah you’re not wrong about that. Although some people went hard into the beanie babies. And the Pokémon cards actually.

          If you were into warhammer you resigned yourself at a young age to never having money. Those things eat up an ungodly amount of money.

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            That’s fair, I’m actually thinking of magic the gathering at the moment. Luckily my friend was given a huge chest of cards like hundreds and hundreds of cards, so we never had to buy any.

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      Is this why me and my equally autistic partner are so decent with our money against statistical odds?

      I mean i knew purchases for status where a thing but surely thats just the odd snobbish people right?

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    Teenagers. US teenagers, specifically. So definitely no big problem.

    Personally for me the problem starts when there is no mobile hardware which supports free/libre OS. It is already visible in the supported hardware list of LineageOS. Large tablets, particularly.

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      As a teen, I’m glad I’m European. Nobody has mocked me for using an Android from 2019

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        I’m wondering if it’s tied to how status symbols differ per culture. Its been 20 years, but I don’t remember status symbols mattering much to my environment when I was a teenager in the Netherlands. I wonder how that is now.

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    US teenagers have never been known for being particularly smart …

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    “Nearly 9 in 10 US teenagers use an iPhone”

    No.

    “Nearly 9 in 10 US teenagers SAY THEY use an iPhone”

    FTFY.

    How many actually use an iPhone remains to be seen.

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          You have literally described all surveys, good job.

          It isn’t like people who run surveys don’t know this and take it into account, there has been plenty of math that has been sussed out to try to remove the kind of bias that can happen in self reporting.

          There’s reams of science dedicated to this problem, it isn’t new. I’m tired of seeing this argument shat out without a shred of consideration for scientific and mathematic history of taking surveys.

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    This stat seems wrong. It suggests 90% of teenagers have parents who bought an iPhone and handed it down or bought a new one for a kid (or the kid worked for a long time and saved up, etc). So many people have basic phones because of their budget that this seems way off.

    Maybe I’ll read the article now.

    Edit - Read it but still skeptical. Study summary here - https://www.pipersandler.com/teens

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    I actually think that Android has gone downhill in a big way, but I still won’t go to Apple’s closed ecosystem, and I don’t care what teenagers think.

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      ^ this
      until google completely locks down android i think androids still gonna be popular with someone
      i say until because theyre totally gonna find a way to, theyre probably just waiting until they have an opportunity to since google pretty much envies apple above all else

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    I wonder how this correlates to low use of WhatsApp in the US. In South America and Europe WhatsApp is used heavily and looks the same no matter the platform but none of my US friends have WhatsApp so they rely on iMessage instead. None of them want to be seen sending green bubbles in the chat. I’ve even seen this as a side plot in a teen tv show that my wife was watching.

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    Can people just stop fucking arguing about android vs iphone, amd vs intel, apple vs samsung etc. I’m so sick of this idiotic mess.

    “this soulless corporation is better than this soulless corporation because their marketing material uses this shade of grey with white text”

    I am going to have a mental breakdown if I read any more of these braindead conversations

    It should be GNULinux vs Windows/Mac, Graphene/LineageOS vs Android/iPhone, etc.

    People arguing corpo1 vs corpo2 have all been brainwashed by the corpos to ignore freedom respecting alternatives, and rather argue a meaningless argument because those 2 corpos are probably owned by the same shareholders anyway.

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    Teenagers might think they want an iPhone, but not everyone has the money for one and paying the bills. Whether they could make life changes to make more money is debatable, but the fact remains that not everyone does have $1000 to throw at a phone.

    Because of this, the cheaper yet surprisingly still usable alternative, android has the larger marketshare. Since Google makes money on ads it’s better for them to hand out more phones for cheap or in same cases for free, when a manufacturer makes a phone, when all those users see ads on YouTube and Google.

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        Definitely. Android has tiers, from flagship down.

        You can get an Android that surpasses any iPhone in specs and price no problem.

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        And if your biggest userbase is teenagers you are on shaky ground. Trends change quickly and as soon as they have to pay for it themselves it’s goodbye luxury item for a lot of them.

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    Google had the game in their hand and then they destroyed Hangouts.

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    I think it starts with the ads… privacy etc. people believe that shit a s apple is good on it. That said iMessage is another things used a lot around central and North America and also in Asia. I think Europe not so much. That is why iPhone is popular. Just a thought. Not sure I am right. I use an iPhone and a pixel with GrapheneOS. Enjoy both and need both one for business and one for day to day private life

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      the thing is apple devices aren’t terrible, just over priced, they are better when it comes to less ads, or are they…? on most Android phones the ads come from the apps the user use, which are likely to be the same on an iphone anyways. YouTube anyone?

      . and knowing how much free money apple gets from the search engine deal on the daily and yet they still charge $1000 for phones that right there, ends my trust for that company, forget about their privacy claims after that nonsense.

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    Look at it like this, how many wanted the Playstation 3 when it was cool, then factor in how many people bought that at launch vs the ps2 at launch. Actual market share matter more then opinions on what’s cool.

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    Well yeah, of course teenagers will just want the most expensive thing, regardless of whether it’s actually any better.

    Teenagers are largely stupid. We all were.

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      ? Google Pixel phones cost as much as an iPhone. Same for Samsungs and other high end phones. Cheaper iPhones are available refurbished, and are still better than same costing Androids even if older.

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        Google Pixel phones cost as much as an iPhone. Same for Samsungs and other high end phones.

        ??? Maybe top-end android phones do, but the vast majority doesn’t. Mid-tier phones like the Samsung A54 cost $450, and chinese brands can get you a decent phone for as low as $200.

        The OnePlus Nord N30 for example has almost everything an average person would need in a phone and it goes for $230 currently. 120Hz screen, 8gb ram, 128gb storage, 5000 mAh battery and a pretty decent 108MP camera. If that isn’t cheap, I don’t know what is.

        Most of the people I know have moved on from high end to mid-tier phones. The spec difference doesn’t warrant paying twice as much anymore imo.

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        iPhones around here cost double the price of Samsung’s flagships, Central Europe