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    If the DNC had allowed a primary, this would have been the news cycle for the last 3 months. The instinct to micromanage everything and allow no real democracy because voters can’t be trusted A) led to them ordaining Biden, the worst monster to occupy the White House since Andrew “Sharpknife” Jackson. And B) led to questions about his mental acuity eclipsing Trump’s overt decline, leading to a second Trump term, the very thing the DNC said we needed to short circuit democracy to avoid. Mission Accomplished, DNC! Heckuvajob, demmy!

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        I remember telling my friends that if they didn’t want it to be biden vote in the primary. They didn’t see the point. There were a lot of people who pretended the primary didn’t exist during it though. Poor Dean what’s his face. No one remembers he existed. I only remember half his name

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          He founded Talenti. And he could have brought the deliciousness and transparency of his ice cream to America… But seriously, he only ran because he is independently wealthy and was sick of being in congress. An AOC (not to lionize that class traitor) who in theory needs their paycheck in congress would NEVER have stepped out of line because the DNC doesn’t really allow primaries. Haven’t my whole life (now they at least in theory don’t blacklist companies that work with primary challengers, although I don’t trust a party that would have that policy to begin with to enact that reform).

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        You may have been born within the last 4 years, but the DNC basically cancelled the primary when it looked like Bernie was winning and Obama forced all non-Biden neolib shills out of the race because we must defeat Trump and Bernie CANNOT defeat Trump (despite what polling showed,as the DNC’s primary liability is losing it’s pre-Trump working class base) and then they cancelled the primary in 2024 BECAUSE they knew Biden wasn’t even 2020-level senile

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      led to them ordaining Biden, the worst monster to occupy the White House since Andrew “Sharpknife” Jackson

      Yikes. Bad take champion contender here

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        Name a democrat who genocided more than 100k people (conservative estimate) thus far other than Sharpknife himself.

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          I mean, we’ve got Buchanan, Nixon, Reagan, GWB, Hoover, and the wunderraper himself in there so like, yeah man

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            name a democrat

            names republicans

            though i’m not an american so idk all your 40 whatever it is presidents but all the ones i recognise there are republicans and im pretty sure that if the ones there are real old then well… it’s a totally different party to what it was? it’s not a team - its politics after all; things change

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              I mean his original comment didn’t specify democrat, and in his second comment, I didn’t think it was a worthwhile stipulation. Also, Nixon and Reagan still loom somewhat large over the modern Republican Party, and GWB and the wunderraper are both very recent republican presidents

              Edit: and I mean where he said the worst monster to occupy the White House, that seems to imply all former residents, no? Not just democrats

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                I specified genocide, also, like W killed a million Iraqis, but not for love of brown person blood and to replace them with the one subgroup of whites whose supremacy we still accept, and I maintain, Bibi will beat 1 mil. Probably in Gaza alone.

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              Yes, the ideology of the parties is always in flux and particularly now. Quick primer – originally you had the Democratic-Republican party and the Federalists, but the Federalists wanted the British to reconquer us in 1812, so they were banned and rebranded as the Whigs (which was what anti-royalists were called during the revolution to help unbrand them as traitors to Britain) meanwhile the Democratic-Republicans fell apart and Andrew Jackson created The Democracy! (Exclamation mark part of the proper name ala Yahoo!) Which held that all white men, even if they don’t currently own land should have the vote, and also that we should Israel-style kill as many of the native inhabitants in as horrible ways as we can. A generation later the Whigs fell apart via Buchanan being Biden-level awful, so the Federalist traitors of 1812 rebranded yet again to The Republican Party, which ironically calls itself the “Grand Old Party” despite being younger than The Democracy! Then there was the Civil War and you probably know most of the rest, but I think the modern GOP is becoming like the democrats of the 70’s, a mix of the religious and workers, and the DNC is becoming like the GOP of the Nixon era, professional autocrats and small business tyrants and social climbing college educateds, but it’s always in flux, which would make more parties clutch, but the duopoly cooperates to prevent that, and always have.

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            I specified democrat on purpose, but still… While Buchanan was bad, I’m unaware of specific genocide stuff, but it is just before the crazy northern Midwest wars with the native Americans you don’t learn about where I’m from so I guess I defer if you’re a Minnesotan but I don’t know. There’s obviously the race stuff, but I’m unaware of whites bombing black city blocks before the Tulsa Massacre

            Nixon with the Khmer Rouge will definitely challenge Biden’s net genocide numbers, but I have faith Bibi will get there.

            Reagan – while beheading people and stapling their hands onto the heads at a dinner table as a family is certainly macabre, I think in terms of overall numbers and population-wide decimation it’s a lower scale. Fucked up though, and anyone surviving who did that should hang at The Hague (is Ollie North still alive?)

            W – he killed a million Iraqis. I have faith Bibi can do better with Biden’s help, but he and Cheney and Alberto Gonzales are now dems, so… Not a good look

            Hoover – starved a great many by just capitalist ideology, but that’s not really genocide…

            Genocide Joe has signed onto and egged on behind the scenes while lying to us the genocide of all non-Jews in the middle east (at least). They just struck another christian community in northern Lebanon. You’ve probably never been to Lebanon, I have, there are dudes with AK-47’s behind sandbags at each ethnic enclave’s border, there’s no way Hezbollah was among christian Maronites, the Israelis (and Biden and Blinken and McGurk) are just extracting non-jewish blood for lebensraum.

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                We all do. The worst men our society has ever produced will come to power yet again no matter who wins while we burn children in their hospital beds and there’s effectively NO real resistance, and sheep like you LIKE this because they’ve broken you like an Indian elephant

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              starved a great many by just capitalist ideology, but that’s not really genocide…

              Genocide doesn’t require bloodthirst, it does just fine with sacrifice whole populations for some other goal or accepting those deaths as “collateral”. The UN definition supports this.

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                I’d argue the Hooverian starvation for capitalism is substantively different in racial context than Queen Victoria starving 70 million Africans and Indians for capitalism, AFAIK there was no “and now we’ll starve out the negro menace” but I am not a scholar of american history or this era so I am open to being wrong. Biden, Blinken, and McGurk are all currently egging on the Israeli ethno state in starving out and bombing the soulless non-jew monkeys who have no souls, including Christians like former GOP congressman Justin Amash’s family and random Lebanese Maronites, Armenians, etc

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                  I am obliged to note that genocide does not need to be racial (it can target religion, sexuality, nationality, etc.), but your point stands because none of those apply either. I’ll just mark it in the Black Book of Capitalism and be content with that.

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      led to them ordaining Biden

      You understand he’s not running now, right? The rest of the post is a non-sequitor because he’s not the candidate now.

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        Well here’s the funny thing with neolibs, when I say she should choose a different policy, she can’t because she’s not president even though she’s the candidate… Also, a political party is one brand, you can’t pretend it’s not, and Biden has created a brand association of DNC==horrifying image of war crime he egged on

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          The entire US government is the image of war crimes they egged on, regardless of party. Don’t act like you’re not immediately a war criminal by becoming president. Trump is a war criminal. So is Biden, and Obama, and every president before then with precious few exceptions.

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            I’d argue Trump is actually the least war-crimey of those listed. Obama literally murdered two US citizens by drone, and Biden’s trying to rehab Nixon’s image by funding a larger genocide than Cambodia.

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        I volunteered for Clinton in '92 for universal healthcare and gay rights and got the end of the social safety net and don’t ask don’t tell probably before you were born, you have bought into the Kang v Kodos system and don’t even realize (or get that reference because you were 8 in 1996)

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          I wasn’t.

          It’s just that while there is a genocide going on in Gaza.

          There’s a genocide roughly 10x as large going on in Ukraine, and that one is threatening to spill out in ww3, and nobody from Ukraine started it.

          Russia is trying to make as much trouble in the world as it can to distract from Ukraine, and I’m willing to let Gaza keep going as it has for a while.

          Yes, I’m a genocide-whatever-er, and I don’t care, because the other genocide is so much worse.

          But as the ml-boys say: “If Gaza wants it to end, they just have to surrender to Israel”, like they say Ukraine should.

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            There’s a genocide roughly 10x as large going on in Ukraine

            Civilian deaths in Ukraine over the last ~3.5 years are still smaller than the substantially underestimated civilian death toll in Gaza after 1 year (which came from a very stringent set of definitions that basically can’t be executed on anymore because of Israel bombing the hospitals).

            There’s no way you could get to this conclusion except some hysterical idea about Putin wanting to put all the Ukrainians in camps as though that’s what he did with Crimea.

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            You can’t compare troop deaths to civilian deaths. Gaza is a bigger deal and has no offramp. Ukraine should have just given Crimea and Donbas water access to Russia for peace to begin with. Also, this betrays you only care about white deaths, which is preeeeettty racist.

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              Thank you for exposing yourself.

              Gaza should have just surrendered to Israel completely, let them do whatever for leave to begin with.

              I’m not white, I’m hindu, you racist son of a bitch.

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            Unlike Gaza, Ukraine could surrender. Putin wants the naval bases in Crimea and water from the Donbas for that. Netanyahu wants to eradicate or subjugate all non-jewish races like Hitler in a yarmulke. There IS no surrender, they killed the leader of Hezbollah (and everyone within three blocks) BECAUSE he was acquiescing to a ceasefire Netanyahu can’t have and stay out of jail